60mph repeaters
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Was on an A road today and surprised to see 60mph repeaters. Two lanes in each direction with a double white line in the middle. Streetlights.
I would have expected nsl repeaters as I didn't think the white lines were enough to make it a dual carriageway.
Am I wrong and need to go on another SAC to learn more?
Bert
I would have expected nsl repeaters as I didn't think the white lines were enough to make it a dual carriageway.
Am I wrong and need to go on another SAC to learn more?
Bert
BertBert said:
Was on an A road today and surprised to see 60mph repeaters. Two lanes in each direction with a double white line in the middle. Streetlights.
I would have expected nsl repeaters as I didn't think the white lines were enough to make it a dual carriageway.
Am I wrong and need to go on another SAC to learn more?
No, you're right. I guess it's to make it clear to those who know a DC is 70, but have forgotten what a carriageway is.I would have expected nsl repeaters as I didn't think the white lines were enough to make it a dual carriageway.
Am I wrong and need to go on another SAC to learn more?
14-7 said:
TooMany2cvs said:
No, you're right. I guess it's to make it clear to those who know a DC is 70, but have forgotten what a carriageway is.
Indeed. Many think two lanes means dual carriageway.Unless it was Wales where they have 60 and 70 red ring zones.
BertBert said:
Was on an A road today and surprised to see 60mph repeaters. Two lanes in each direction with a double white line in the middle. Streetlights.
Like this? - https://goo.gl/maps/PNRAPida1moHere's one which is a plain S2.
Not even double white centre lines - https://goo.gl/maps/NbDyaPZZEx42
James2593 said:
I've always thought that 60 or 70 limits rather than NSL is to allow trucks to travel at a higher speed than 40 or 50 (single + dual carriageway respectively), which is their limit in NSL.
No. And unless you are in Scotland the LGV limits are 50 single and 60 DC and motorway (Which is laughable due to the 56mph speed limiter).The only reason I can think of is someone has chosen to put 60mph signs up to clearly indicate it's not a dual carriageway and therefore subject to a nsl. For reference any combination other than 30mph with street lights or nsl without street lights retirees a traffic regulation order and subsequent repeater signs.
carmadgaz said:
James2593 said:
I've always thought that 60 or 70 limits rather than NSL is to allow trucks to travel at a higher speed than 40 or 50 (single + dual carriageway respectively), which is their limit in NSL.
No.Missed this, but yes.
Red Devil said:
Like this? - https://goo.gl/maps/PNRAPida1mo
Here's one which is a plain S2.
Not even double white centre lines - https://goo.gl/maps/NbDyaPZZEx42
Here's one which is a plain S2.
Not even double white centre lines - https://goo.gl/maps/NbDyaPZZEx42
gothatway said:
carmadgaz said:
James2593 said:
I've always thought that 60 or 70 limits rather than NSL is to allow trucks to travel at a higher speed than 40 or 50 (single + dual carriageway respectively), which is their limit in NSL.
No.Highways authorities use 60 and 70 signs because in some locations lots of drivers seem to be confused with the NSL sign and can't work out what they should know to obtain their driving licence in the first place.
simoid said:
AFAIK it should always be NSL repeaters. Unless special permission is granted - which is the case with the A9 in Scotland due to a massive tourist population in the summer(?)
That would make sense, as the A55 near Mochdre (I think) has posted 60mph and 70mph limits. Maybe also because it's a Euroroute (22)?Swervin_Mervin said:
simoid said:
AFAIK it should always be NSL repeaters. Unless special permission is granted - which is the case with the A9 in Scotland due to a massive tourist population in the summer(?)
That would make sense, as the A55 near Mochdre (I think) has posted 60mph and 70mph limits. Maybe also because it's a Euroroute (22)?See this thread - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The A55 is signed as 50 (not 60) and 70.
The reason is certain sections (J23-17) were built as a Special Road.
As a result they require different signage (similar to the A720 Edinburgh City Bypass).
Llandulas Bypass
https://goo.gl/maps/jmJi7oHMBJm
Colywn Bay Bypass.
https://goo.gl/maps/VdrKxubkwEz
https://goo.gl/maps/N5u4j4v5LFy
Conwy Bypass.
https://goo.gl/maps/agkexe95EqC2
simoid said:
AFAIK it should always be NSL repeaters. Unless special permission is granted - which is the case with the A9 in Scotland due to a massive tourist population in the summer(?)
Pretty much all of these disappeared when the SPECS cameras went up. The A82 still has 60mph signs & repeaters though, same exemption as far as I am awareRed Devil said:
Swervin_Mervin said:
simoid said:
AFAIK it should always be NSL repeaters. Unless special permission is granted - which is the case with the A9 in Scotland due to a massive tourist population in the summer(?)
That would make sense, as the A55 near Mochdre (I think) has posted 60mph and 70mph limits. Maybe also because it's a Euroroute (22)?See this thread - https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...
The A55 is signed as 50 (not 60) and 70.
The reason is certain sections (J23-17) were built as a Special Road.
As a result they require different signage (similar to the A720 Edinburgh City Bypass).
alangla said:
simoid said:
AFAIK it should always be NSL repeaters. Unless special permission is granted - which is the case with the A9 in Scotland due to a massive tourist population in the summer(?)
Pretty much all of these disappeared when the SPECS cameras went up. The A82 still has 60mph signs & repeaters though, same exemption as far as I am awareGassing Station | Speed, Plod & the Law | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff