Do UK Police do this, if not they should!
Do UK Police do this, if not they should!
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revvingit

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444 posts

110 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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Just found this video on YouTube, incredibly satisfying to watch the aussie bike cop pulling over drivers using their phone while driving. Given we also have bike cops in the UK, I wonder if they do blitzes like this on undercover bikes. As a biker, I can assure you that just filtering through a heavy line of traffic in a city centre you see dozens of people on their phones, this should be done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9N1iw5Vdim8

bad company

21,919 posts

296 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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Great idea if only we still had traffic police.

94OD

1,148 posts

152 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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I often think of this.

If the Government employed bods to solely catch people on their phones and issue fixed penalties, surely it would generate revenue and hopefully combat the issue.

£200 a pop, I'm sure they could do a good few per hour. Sure, they would have to pay for training and resources but I think it would work wonders. People know they can get away with it - from my own observations the increase in fine/points has made absolutely zero difference.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,031 posts

265 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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94OD said:
I often think of this.

If the Government employed bods to solely catch people on their phones and issue fixed penalties, surely it would generate revenue and hopefully combat the issue.

£200 a pop, I'm sure they could do a good few per hour. Sure, they would have to pay for training and resources but I think it would work wonders. People know they can get away with it - from my own observations the increase in fine/points has made absolutely zero difference.
There's a street in St Albans called Holywell Hill. There's always a queue, and at least every other driver is tapping on their phone. I often thought that if they privatised ticketing I could make a fortune. It would be thousands of pounds an hour I reckon.

Allanv

3,540 posts

216 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
94OD said:
I often think of this.

If the Government employed bods to solely catch people on their phones and issue fixed penalties, surely it would generate revenue and hopefully combat the issue.

£200 a pop, I'm sure they could do a good few per hour. Sure, they would have to pay for training and resources but I think it would work wonders. People know they can get away with it - from my own observations the increase in fine/points has made absolutely zero difference.
There's a street in St Albans called Holywell Hill. There's always a queue, and at least every other driver is tapping on their phone. I often thought that if they privatised ticketing I could make a fortune. It would be thousands of pounds an hour I reckon.
I see this all the time, but what are they doing? FB / SC / TEXT (insert more Social Media)or anything can bloody wait can it not?

If my phone beeps pings or bongs it can wait, if it rings i have a parrot kit fitted. there are good and bad points of hands free I appreciate that.

surveyor

18,691 posts

214 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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While I get the phone safety thing and stopping people using their phones is a good idea it was interesting to note that everyone of those drivers was stopped at traffic lights.

revvingit

Original Poster:

444 posts

110 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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surveyor said:
While I get the phone safety thing and stopping people using their phones is a good idea it was interesting to note that everyone of those drivers was stopped at traffic lights.
That's still not an appropriate to be using your phone.

They could miss bikes filtering down the middle of the two lanes and make a dangerous manouvre towards them. They could fail to notice an ambulance siren/lights (the last lady missed the police bike lights). They could fail notice a pedestrian stepping out in front of them in the stationary traffic or a filtering cyclist, they could fail to notice there's still someone on the pedestrian crossing. They could fail to notice the lights changing colour.

It's not okay to use your phone just because your at a traffic light. You need to be fully parked.

surveyor

18,691 posts

214 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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revvingit said:
surveyor said:
While I get the phone safety thing and stopping people using their phones is a good idea it was interesting to note that everyone of those drivers was stopped at traffic lights.
That's still not an appropriate to be using your phone.

They could miss bikes filtering down the middle of the two lanes and make a dangerous manouvre towards them. They could fail to notice an ambulance siren/lights (the last lady missed the police bike lights). They could fail notice a pedestrian stepping out in front of them in the stationary traffic or a filtering cyclist, they could fail to notice there's still someone on the pedestrian crossing. They could fail to notice the lights changing colour.

It's not okay to use your phone just because your at a traffic light. You need to be fully parked.
Do you need steps to get off your horse?

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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Usually see a motorbike copper filtering through traffic on the A3 checking for phones, quite often you see the blues flashing in the distance as he nicks someone biggrin

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,031 posts

265 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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surveyor said:
revvingit said:
surveyor said:
While I get the phone safety thing and stopping people using their phones is a good idea it was interesting to note that everyone of those drivers was stopped at traffic lights.
That's still not an appropriate to be using your phone.

They could miss bikes filtering down the middle of the two lanes and make a dangerous manouvre towards them. They could fail to notice an ambulance siren/lights (the last lady missed the police bike lights). They could fail notice a pedestrian stepping out in front of them in the stationary traffic or a filtering cyclist, they could fail to notice there's still someone on the pedestrian crossing. They could fail to notice the lights changing colour.

It's not okay to use your phone just because your at a traffic light. You need to be fully parked.
Do you need steps to get off your horse?
He makes a lot of sense I'd say.

revvingit

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444 posts

110 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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surveyor said:
Do you need steps to get off your horse?
Not sure what you mean? If you referring to high horse, I'm glad to stand astride it, I always pull over to use my mobile. Enough other people trying to kill me without making myself one of them.

ruggedscotty

5,997 posts

239 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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someone miffed at someone talking sense.....

get caught on the phone while driving phone should be confiscated.

surveyor

18,691 posts

214 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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ruggedscotty said:
someone miffed at someone talking sense.....

get caught on the phone while driving phone should be confiscated.
I was more miffed that while they should not have been on the phone at lights, there was not one 'capture' of a moving vehicle...

ging84

9,548 posts

176 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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I was killed by a motorist using his phone while stationary in traffic
I no longer play clash of clans

The Moose

23,679 posts

239 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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I talk on my cell phone while driving pretty much every day. Don't really see the issue with it.

Flumpo

4,024 posts

103 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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I seem to remember seeing one county has an unmarked lorry that catches people on their stretch of motorway using phones. Obviously they have an excellent high up view.

Although better police training might help too. I couldn’t believe my eyes last week. At a very busy multi traffic light junction a police car was coming through the traffic at speed, blues and twos. All very tight manoeuvres, the driver had one hand on the wheel and drinking a Starbucks with the other hand. Wish I had a dash camera.

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

290 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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It can be irritating watching people are texting whilst stationary but it's not dangerous imo. I leave them to it. I don't see them colliding into other cars or causing accidents. This illustrates some of the more stupid aspects of mobile phone legislation. I was happy with current legislation that covered aspects of dangerous driving.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,031 posts

265 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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Boosted LS1 said:
It can be irritating watching people are texting whilst stationary but it's not dangerous imo. I leave them to it. I don't see them colliding into other cars or causing accidents. This illustrates some of the more stupid aspects of mobile phone legislation. I was happy with current legislation that covered aspects of dangerous driving.
They lose awareness of what's going on around. They also often set off still not having finished their essential texting.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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The Moose said:
I talk on my cell phone while driving pretty much every day. Don't really see the issue with it.
Many people feel the same way. Some have killed others and been jailed for it.

Good luck.

foxbody-87

2,675 posts

196 months

Friday 13th April 2018
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‘The Moose’ is based in Florida where using a mobile and driving is perfectly legal. The death rate on US roads is more than 3x that of the UK however, though there are probably several factors involved.