Discussion
Roadworks.
Stop/Go signs in operation, with 1 person either side of a section of road with traffic cones.
1. Do the Stop/Go signs have the same legal standing as traffic lights? Is it the same offence code?
2. Is there often CCTV on these sites to monitor vehicles going through 'STOP' boards?
My mate thinks he may have gone through one just after the guy flipped the board around. The guy at the other end had waited for my mate to go through before flipping his board round at his end to let the opposite waiting traffic through, so there wasn't any near-incident.
My mate saw the 'GO' sign as he approached the start of the roadworks section, and then he was trying to make sure he didn't hit any construction stuff (metal fences etc.) leading up to the sign as it was quite narrow, and then he forgot to look again, so it may or may not have changed. After he went past the board, he saw in his rear view mirror that the board had been flipped.
Stop/Go signs in operation, with 1 person either side of a section of road with traffic cones.
1. Do the Stop/Go signs have the same legal standing as traffic lights? Is it the same offence code?
2. Is there often CCTV on these sites to monitor vehicles going through 'STOP' boards?
My mate thinks he may have gone through one just after the guy flipped the board around. The guy at the other end had waited for my mate to go through before flipping his board round at his end to let the opposite waiting traffic through, so there wasn't any near-incident.
My mate saw the 'GO' sign as he approached the start of the roadworks section, and then he was trying to make sure he didn't hit any construction stuff (metal fences etc.) leading up to the sign as it was quite narrow, and then he forgot to look again, so it may or may not have changed. After he went past the board, he saw in his rear view mirror that the board had been flipped.
sonnenschein3000 said:
Roadworks.
Stop/Go signs in operation, with 1 person either side of a section of road with traffic cones.
1. Do the Stop/Go signs have the same legal standing as traffic lights? Is it the same offence code?
2. Is there often CCTV on these sites to monitor vehicles going through 'STOP' boards?
My mate thinks he may have gone through one just after the guy flipped the board around. The guy at the other end had waited for my mate to go through before flipping his board round at his end to let the opposite waiting traffic through, so there wasn't any near-incident.
My mate saw the 'GO' sign as he approached the start of the roadworks section, and then he was trying to make sure he didn't hit any construction stuff (metal fences etc.) leading up to the sign as it was quite narrow, and then he forgot to look again, so it may or may not have changed. After he went past the board, he saw in his rear view mirror that the board had been flipped.
Yes, they have the same legal standing as temporary lights. I very much doubt if they're monitored. The 'guy at the other end' would have had to wait until your mate was past even if he went past the board before it was flipped. Imagine the potential chaos if they both flipped at the same time.Stop/Go signs in operation, with 1 person either side of a section of road with traffic cones.
1. Do the Stop/Go signs have the same legal standing as traffic lights? Is it the same offence code?
2. Is there often CCTV on these sites to monitor vehicles going through 'STOP' boards?
My mate thinks he may have gone through one just after the guy flipped the board around. The guy at the other end had waited for my mate to go through before flipping his board round at his end to let the opposite waiting traffic through, so there wasn't any near-incident.
My mate saw the 'GO' sign as he approached the start of the roadworks section, and then he was trying to make sure he didn't hit any construction stuff (metal fences etc.) leading up to the sign as it was quite narrow, and then he forgot to look again, so it may or may not have changed. After he went past the board, he saw in his rear view mirror that the board had been flipped.
ElectricPics said:
Yes, they have the same legal standing as temporary lights. I very much doubt if they're monitored. The 'guy at the other end' would have had to wait until your mate was past even if he went past the board before it was flipped. Imagine the potential chaos if they both flipped at the same time.
Agreed from the Highway Code109
Traffic light signals and traffic signs. You MUST obey all traffic light signals (download ‘Light signals controlling traffic’) and traffic signs giving orders, including temporary signals & signs (download ‘Traffic signs’). Make sure you know, understand and act on all other traffic and information signs and road markings (download ‘Road markings’ and Vehicle markings’) .
Laws RTA 1988 sect 36 & TSRGD regs 10, 15, 16, 25, 26, 27, 28, 29, 36, 38 & 40
Above all don't be that idiot, there's someone's husband, wife, mother, father, etc stood there in the firing line.
speedking31 said:
I have noticed recently that a lot of temporary traffic lights (even mobile ones) have stickers saying "CCTV monitored" or similar. I wonder if that is backed up by hardware or just designed to scare people into compliance. I'm all in favour.
I'm guessing that mobile lights could well have as they obviously have a power supply. Bloke with signs on sticks less likely and they tend to be used on works like resurfacing that work their way quickly along a stretch of road making it inconvenient to keep setting up lights or works that are so short lived it's pointless setting up lights. I'm in favour too as it's a pain when you're sat at a green light waiting for half a dozen cars that have clearly passed the red at the other end.Although they could be, I very much doubt they could be used in an evidential way as it would give a very limited view of the incident.
The operatives who do the Stop/Go boards are, believe it or not, trained (NRSWA) and from that and experience try and turn the sign at a point where an oncoming vehicle has time to stop (or when all the vehicles have passed at the other end).
If it was me, i wouldnt worry from what has been said in the OP, but would be more careful and observant around them in the future.
The operatives who do the Stop/Go boards are, believe it or not, trained (NRSWA) and from that and experience try and turn the sign at a point where an oncoming vehicle has time to stop (or when all the vehicles have passed at the other end).
If it was me, i wouldnt worry from what has been said in the OP, but would be more careful and observant around them in the future.
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