How many police motorcyclists in london?
How many police motorcyclists in london?
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Chozza

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808 posts

182 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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How many police motorcyclist does the met and TVP have?

Driving out from Hammersmith on the M4 yesterday, I saw what I guess was the return from Windsor of the various commonwealth delegates and entourage on the other carriageway. Each batch of coaches/cars seemed to have their own escort of 4/5 bikes plus a few other vehicles. Were there any bikes left in the South ?

I reckon the traffic was also suffering blue light fatigue..As it seemed less inclined to part after the first waves


parabolica

7,017 posts

214 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Funny I was thinking the exact same thing on Thursday after I joined Great West Road via the r/b overpass and there were 10 police motorbikes riding in formation heading towards the city. Lights weren't on but it was unusual to see such a concentration of them. Then seemed to continually see individual bikes during the rest of my journey; just one of those days when you notice a huge police presence.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Amazing how they are not 'short or resources' if is not the general public.
Maybe if the politicos and decision makers saw/lived in the real world they could make real world decisions and judgements scratchchin

Biker 1

8,582 posts

149 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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are they referred to as a shoal, pack or perhaps herd when they are in this sort of convoy?

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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speedyguy said:
Amazing how they are not 'short or resources' if is not the general public.
Football matches often have a lot of resources allocated to them.



ElectricPics

761 posts

111 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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La Liga said:
speedyguy said:
Amazing how they are not 'short or resources' if is not the general public.
Football matches often have a lot of resources allocated to them.

Effectively subsidising commercial activities as forces can't recover costs of policing outside grounds, thanks to Supreme Court.

HTP99

25,263 posts

170 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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My dad's funeral courtege (1 car and a hearse) had Police motorcycle outriders (6 I think) performing a blue light run, to escort him to the house, his hearse and us to the Cathedral and him to the crematorium.

Whilst a very sad day for the family it was quite something to experience being in the middle of it all, the efficiency and how the Police motorcyclists worked together blocking off roads, junctions and roundabouts to enable an unhindered journey was something else.


Chozza

Original Poster:

808 posts

182 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Biker 1 said:
are they referred to as a shoal, pack or perhaps herd when they are in this sort of convoy?
There was a obvious difference between the white bikes of the Special escort group ( or whatever they are now called ) and the other bikes. The former were an elegant shoal or a well managed pack, the others a herd or a rabble

( though i suspect riding alongside another rider at speed is a lot more difficult than it appears and my experience here is watching CHiPs :-) )

Russ T Bolt

1,760 posts

313 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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La Liga said:
ootball matches often have a lot of resources allocated to them.

Not according to the Police, mostly stewards now.

We were trying to test some specialist equipment with the Police and trying to find events they have a reasonable presence at was actually quite difficult.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Chozza said:
How many police motorcyclist does the met have?
Less than 1,000.

Greendubber

15,314 posts

233 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Like any big event people will have had their days off cancelled and other officers shipped in from outside forces. I'd be amazed if they're all Met.

Edited by Greendubber on Saturday 21st April 16:11

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Russ T Bolt said:
La Liga said:
ootball matches often have a lot of resources allocated to them.
Not according to the Police, mostly stewards now.

We were trying to test some specialist equipment with the Police and trying to find events they have a reasonable presence at was actually quite difficult.
In the ground the police prefer to keep it minimal and have the stewards do the work. Outside is where you find the bulk of the resources are deployed / focused.


Greendubber

15,314 posts

233 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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La Liga said:
Russ T Bolt said:
La Liga said:
ootball matches often have a lot of resources allocated to them.
Not according to the Police, mostly stewards now.

We were trying to test some specialist equipment with the Police and trying to find events they have a reasonable presence at was actually quite difficult.
In the ground the police prefer to keep it minimal and have the stewards do the work. Outside is where you find the bulk of the resources are deployed / focused.
Yep, leave the stewarding to the club. It's down the road when grown men turn into idiots and want a fight that needs the police response.

Chrisgr31

14,279 posts

285 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Greendubber said:
Like any big event people will have had their days off cancelled and other officers shipped in from outside forces. I'd be amazed if they're all Met.

Edited by Greendubber on Saturday 21st April 16:11
Our office is next to Guildhall in the City and certainly some of the police outside there on Commonwealth duty had come down from Birmingham.

Greendubber

15,314 posts

233 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Chrisgr31 said:
Greendubber said:
Like any big event people will have had their days off cancelled and other officers shipped in from outside forces. I'd be amazed if they're all Met.

Edited by Greendubber on Saturday 21st April 16:11
Our office is next to Guildhall in the City and certainly some of the police outside there on Commonwealth duty had come down from Birmingham.
There areots down there at the moment from all over the place. My force has sent down search teams to assist.

Wildcat45

8,160 posts

219 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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HTP99 said:
My dad's funeral courtege (1 car and a hearse) had Police motorcycle outriders (6 I think) performing a blue light run, to escort him to the house, his hearse and us to the Cathedral and him to the crematorium.

Whilst a very sad day for the family it was quite something to experience being in the middle of it all, the efficiency and how the Police motorcyclists worked together blocking off roads, junctions and roundabouts to enable an unhindered journey was something else.
Was there a specific reason why he had a police escort?

HTP99

25,263 posts

170 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Wildcat45 said:
HTP99 said:
My dad's funeral courtege (1 car and a hearse) had Police motorcycle outriders (6 I think) performing a blue light run, to escort him to the house, his hearse and us to the Cathedral and him to the crematorium.

Whilst a very sad day for the family it was quite something to experience being in the middle of it all, the efficiency and how the Police motorcyclists worked together blocking off roads, junctions and round* abouts to enable an unhindered journey was something else.
Was there a specific reason why he had a police escort?
Worked for the Police as a policeman and a civilian for about 40 years, he was well respected and we'll known throughout the Surrey Police force.

He was also carried into the Cathedral by Police pall bearers through a Police guard of honour and the Chief Constable read a eulogy,

Personally I thought it was overkill but he would have absolutely loved it.

grumpy52

6,064 posts

196 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Chatting with a Kent M/C Cop a couple of years ago he told me that they had 13 in the county .

M3CS

383 posts

203 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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Might be BS but I heard once that all police pursuit drivers in the Met (or maybe it was the city of london?) need to also be trained as motorcycle escorts too, such is the need for the latter and the ‘spikes’ in demand.
No idea how many bikes they have however.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

247 months

Sunday 22nd April 2018
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M3CS said:
Might be BS but I heard once that all police pursuit drivers in the Met (or maybe it was the city of london?) need to also be trained as motorcycle escorts too, such is the need for the latter and the ‘spikes’ in demand.
No idea how many bikes they have however.
It's BS.

The Met have about 5000 vehicles of which 330 are bikes.