Police parking on double yellows

[flyinyam]

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/van-driver-arrested-te...

Apologies if this has already been covered.

I have already formed my opinion (only on what is told.)

But am not surprised in the least.

Regards
Fy

[anonymous-user]

Like so many, if he had just given his name none of that would have happened and he could have got his compo face in the MEN along with his video of what had gone on.

[Pica-Pica]

Storm over nothing. You know they were just ‘loading or unloading’

[flyinyam]

Is he obliged to give them his name?

Genuine question as I don't know. And I can't think of a reason why you wouldn't (to save grief).

And it does seem like he may have been an uncooperative twonk,
But searching his house , seizing company van etc.

Sounds as though the police were being arrisholes too.

And maybe ' Do as I say, not as I do.'.

Fy

[Gary C]

Typical

They do it in Lancaster too.

Opposite the station there is a 'loading only' bay and its frequently filled with police cars.

[Jimi.K.]

I have no problem with police parking on double yellow lines. We all pay for their time and I'd rather they spent it fighting crime than circling the block trying to find a parking space. Double red lines are a different matter though, as even one car parked on those will cause real inconvenience.

[Alucidnation]

Ah, it’s been a while since we’ve had a good ol’ Police bashing thread.

[Alucidnation]

I know.

Just thought I'd get in first.

[vonhosen]

flyinyam said:

Is he obliged to give them his name?

That depends on the circumstances.
If you are going to assert your right not to it helps to be very sure of when you need to or not.

flyinyam said:

And maybe ' Do as I say, not as I do.'.

Well the rules are different rules for them, they have exemptions others don't.

[Bigends]

vonhosen said:

Well the rules are different rules for them, they have exemptions others don't.

..and was he obliged to give details under the circs as described in thr OP - simply taking a pic of the Police car and confronting the officer who could simply have ignored him and driven off - or giving an explanation and then driving off. Terrorist arrest?? Really? When is it ok to photograph a Police vehicle in public - there are a number of websites dedicated to the subject

Edited by Bigends on Saturday 28th April 13:38

[vonhosen]

Bigends said:

vonhosen said:

Well the rules are different rules for them, they have exemptions others don't.

..and was he obliged to give details under the circs as described in thr OP - simply taking a pic of the Police car and confronting the officer who could simply have ignored him and driven off - or giving an explanation and then driving off. Terrorist arrest?? Really? When is it ok to photograph a Police vehicle in public - there are a number of websites dedicated to the subject

He isn't obliged to explain it to him, he can choose to, but he isn't obliged to.

For him to arrest there will need to be grounds & he would have had to explain those grounds to the custody officer & detainee.

(I'm sure you know that though).

[bad company]

vonhosen said:

Well the rules are different rules for them, they have exemptions others don't.

Do the exemptions include parking by the ‘butty shop’ for their lunch?

[vonhosen]

bad company said:

vonhosen said:

Well the rules are different rules for them, they have exemptions others don't.

Do the exemptions include parking by the ‘butty shop’ for their lunch?

They can.
The exemptions are not tied to active emergencies.
If it would simply hinder a Police purpose they are exempt.

[cmaguire]

vonhosen said:

They can.
The exemptions are not tied to active emergencies.
If it would simply hinder a Police purpose they are exempt.

Is fattening yourself up included?

[vonhosen]

cmaguire said:

vonhosen said:

They can.
The exemptions are not tied to active emergencies.
If it would simply hinder a Police purpose they are exempt.

Is fattening yourself up included?

No, but your ability to respond in an emergency (if that's part of your riole) is.
If the nearest free parking is 1/2 mile away, & they have only 2 vehicles to cover the town they aren't going to be any good at responding to an emergency request for assistance. By simply having the vehicle close by they still can.
Hence not having it there would be hindering that Police purpose.

[Shaw Tarse]

cmaguire said:

Is fattening yourself up included?

Oh look who has arrived

[cmaguire]

vonhosen said:

No, but your ability to respond in an emergency (if that's part of your riole) is.
If the nearest free parking is 1/2 mile away, & they have only 2 vehicles to cover the town they aren't going to be any good at responding to an emergency request for assistance. By simply having the vehicle close by they still can.
Hence not having it there would be hindering that Police purpose.

Picking a different sandwich shop would make more sense.

[bad company]

vonhosen said:

cmaguire said:

vonhosen said:

They can.
The exemptions are not tied to active emergencies.
If it would simply hinder a Police purpose they are exempt.

Is fattening yourself up included?

No, but your ability to respond in an emergency (if that's part of your riole) is.
If the nearest free parking is 1/2 mile away, & they have only 2 vehicles to cover the town they aren't going to be any good at responding to an emergency request for assistance. By simply having the vehicle close by they still can.
Hence not having it there would be hindering that Police purpose.

That makes sense now. Do other emergency services have similar exemptions?

[vonhosen]

bad company said:

vonhosen said:

cmaguire said:

vonhosen said:

They can.
The exemptions are not tied to active emergencies.
If it would simply hinder a Police purpose they are exempt.

Is fattening yourself up included?

No, but your ability to respond in an emergency (if that's part of your riole) is.
If the nearest free parking is 1/2 mile away, & they have only 2 vehicles to cover the town they aren't going to be any good at responding to an emergency request for assistance. By simply having the vehicle close by they still can.
Hence not having it there would be hindering that Police purpose.

That makes sense now. Do other emergency services have similar exemptions?

Generally yes.

[anonymous-user]

I write traffic regulation orders. Pretty much every order I have ever written (hundreds) has a standard exemption for (all) emergency service vehicles (regardless if on "a shout") and maintenance vehicles. Double yellows, bus lanes, turning restrictions etc. Plod have pretty much blanket exemptions and rightly so IMO.