High expectations in North Yorkshire
High expectations in North Yorkshire
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Wingo

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314 posts

201 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Must try harder, how disappointing that the investment has produced the return expected.roflthumbup

http://www.yorkpress.co.uk/news/16323857.speed-cam...



Wingo

HantsRat

2,409 posts

138 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Surely this is a good thing? Less motorists speeding means the cameras are working up there.

XDA

2,153 posts

215 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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"The Chief Constable’s draft statement of accounts said: “The recharges made for speed awareness courses were responsible for the greatest single underachievement of income. The recharges generated £2.1 million less income than was forecast."

But of course, camera vans are nothing to do with revenue generation. scratchchin

Biker 1

8,582 posts

149 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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I quite enjoyed her quote: '....but contrary to popular belief, this has never been about making money....'
Who the fk do they think they're kidding?

agtlaw

7,404 posts

236 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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"North Yorkshire Police does not receive any income from speeding penalties - the full amount goes to the Treasury - but if a driver takes a speed awareness course as an alternative to a fine and points on their licence, the force receives some income from the cost of the course."

North Yorkshire police generates income of £45 for every person who attends a course. It used to be £35.

North Yorkshire does not have fixed speed cameras so almost all revenue is derived by deploying gimps in vans.

Nationally, more than a million people do one of three available speed awareness courses each year. NSAC20 / NSAC / Motorway SAC.

The eligibility threshold has increased - e.g. drive at 86/70 and you can still do a course. The number of courses has increased - from 1 to 3. In North Yorkshire, the number of vans has doubled. It's a dishonest industry and the pretext of road safety evaporated a long time ago.

No doubt, a retired traffic police / BRAKE enthusiast will be along soon to educate us that speed kills, fatal 4, etc, etc.

JNW1

9,482 posts

224 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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agtlaw said:
"North Yorkshire Police does not receive any income from speeding penalties - the full amount goes to the Treasury - but if a driver takes a speed awareness course as an alternative to a fine and points on their licence, the force receives some income from the cost of the course."

North Yorkshire police generates income of £45 for every person who attends a course. It used to be £35.

North Yorkshire does not have fixed speed cameras so almost all revenue is derived by deploying gimps in vans.

Nationally, more than a million people do one of three available speed awareness courses each year. NSAC20 / NSAC / Motorway SAC.

The eligibility threshold has increased - e.g. drive at 86/70 and you can still do a course. The number of courses has increased - from 1 to 3. In North Yorkshire, the number of vans has doubled. It's a dishonest industry and the pretext of road safety evaporated a long time ago.

No doubt, a retired traffic police / BRAKE enthusiast will be along soon to educate us that speed kills, fatal 4, etc, etc.
Bang on the money sir, sure it won't be long before safety as the objective will be replaced by something like emission reduction (and when they fail to demonstrate any improvement against that measure they'll doubtless think of something else to justify the existence of the ever increasing mobile camera fleet).


Jasandjules

72,606 posts

259 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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HantsRat said:
Surely this is a good thing? Less motorists speeding means the cameras are working up there.
No bad it is less income than they wanted...... At least the didn't bother trying to hide the real basis of them in the accounts, but when called out the PR machine kicks in...

Vaud

59,579 posts

185 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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XDA said:
"The Chief Constable’s draft statement of accounts said: “The recharges made for speed awareness courses were responsible for the greatest single underachievement of income. The recharges generated £2.1 million less income than was forecast."

But of course, camera vans are nothing to do with revenue generation. scratchchin
Quite. Forecasting revenue from crime...

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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agtlaw said:
"North Yorkshire Police does not receive any income from speeding penalties - the full amount goes to the Treasury - but if a driver takes a speed awareness course as an alternative to a fine and points on their licence, the force receives some income from the cost of the course."

North Yorkshire police generates income of £45 for every person who attends a course. It used to be £35.

North Yorkshire does not have fixed speed cameras so almost all revenue is derived by deploying gimps in vans.

Nationally, more than a million people do one of three available speed awareness courses each year. NSAC20 / NSAC / Motorway SAC.

The eligibility threshold has increased - e.g. drive at 86/70 and you can still do a course. The number of courses has increased - from 1 to 3. In North Yorkshire, the number of vans has doubled. It's a dishonest industry and the pretext of road safety evaporated a long time ago.

No doubt, a retired traffic police / BRAKE enthusiast will be along soon to educate us that speed kills, fatal 4, etc, etc.
Couldn't agree more, as this article proves it's just another income stream for the police and the treasury. As for the speed kills safety mobs if they had a brain between them I'd be surprised.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

162 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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agtlaw said:
"North Yorkshire Police does not receive any income from speeding penalties - the full amount goes to the Treasury - but if a driver takes a speed awareness course as an alternative to a fine and points on their licence, the force receives some income from the cost of the course."

North Yorkshire police generates income of £45 for every person who attends a course. It used to be £35.

North Yorkshire does not have fixed speed cameras so almost all revenue is derived by deploying gimps in vans.

Nationally, more than a million people do one of three available speed awareness courses each year. NSAC20 / NSAC / Motorway SAC.

The eligibility threshold has increased - e.g. drive at 86/70 and you can still do a course. The number of courses has increased - from 1 to 3. In North Yorkshire, the number of vans has doubled. It's a dishonest industry and the pretext of road safety evaporated a long time ago.

No doubt, a retired traffic police / BRAKE enthusiast will be along soon to educate us that speed kills, fatal 4, etc, etc.
Huh, that's just your opinion, what could you possibly know?

Vaud

59,579 posts

185 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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V8 Fettler said:
Huh, that's just your opinion, what could you possibly know?
Do you know AGTLaw's profession?

krisdelta

4,673 posts

231 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Vaud said:
V8 Fettler said:
Huh, that's just your opinion, what could you possibly know?
Do you know AGTLaw's profession?
Possible parrot in-bound?

Back O/T - maybe just make speeding a price "thing" - use tags like on the French toll roads and have a suitable sum debited if you're over 10% of the limit, accidents non-withstanding. Then you'll be able to see someone's status from the speed they drive. wink

The Selfish Gene

5,582 posts

240 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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i'm sure they'll just reduce the speed limits to further silly slow levels to ensure the revenue cameras go up.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

162 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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Vaud said:
V8 Fettler said:
Huh, that's just your opinion, what could you possibly know?
Do you know AGTLaw's profession?
Irony obviously doesn't work very well on a forum frown

carinaman

25,202 posts

202 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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agtlaw said:
"North Yorkshire Police does not receive any income from speeding penalties - the full amount goes to the Treasury - but if a driver takes a speed awareness course as an alternative to a fine and points on their licence, the force receives some income from the cost of the course."

North Yorkshire police generates income of £45 for every person who attends a course. It used to be £35.

North Yorkshire does not have fixed speed cameras so almost all revenue is derived by deploying gimps in vans.

Nationally, more than a million people do one of three available speed awareness courses each year. NSAC20 / NSAC / Motorway SAC.

The eligibility threshold has increased - e.g. drive at 86/70 and you can still do a course. The number of courses has increased - from 1 to 3. In North Yorkshire, the number of vans has doubled. It's a dishonest industry and the pretext of road safety evaporated a long time ago.

No doubt, a retired traffic police / BRAKE enthusiast will be along soon to educate us that speed kills, fatal 4, etc, etc.
Speeding is like gambling.

At Crockfords.

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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carinaman said:
Speeding is like gambling.
Indeed, you don't lose any £ if you don't take part wink

JNW1

9,482 posts

224 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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carinaman said:
Speeding is like gambling.

At Crockfords.
Really, at Crockfords you win far more often than you lose? Must give it a go sometime.....

TheBALDpuma

5,940 posts

198 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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V8 Fettler said:
Vaud said:
V8 Fettler said:
Huh, that's just your opinion, what could you possibly know?
Do you know AGTLaw's profession?
Irony obviously doesn't work very well on a forum frown
Is it Ironic that you meant sarcasm?

Vaud

59,579 posts

185 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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V8 Fettler said:
Irony obviously doesn't work very well on a forum frown
I will serve myself a freshly roasted woosh parrot.

V8 Fettler

7,019 posts

162 months

Friday 6th July 2018
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TheBALDpuma said:
V8 Fettler said:
Vaud said:
V8 Fettler said:
Huh, that's just your opinion, what could you possibly know?
Do you know AGTLaw's profession?
Irony obviously doesn't work very well on a forum frown
Is it Ironic that you meant sarcasm?
Two sides, same coin, irony can be defined as ">the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect. <"