Parked outside of marked bay - worth appealing?
Parked outside of marked bay - worth appealing?
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flight147z

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1,386 posts

159 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Hi all.

Returned to my car this morning to find a £50 parking notice for parking outside of a marked bay. I parked in my usual spot next to the entrance. I like this spot as these is an adjacent space with a bollard partly across it, which means a car can't park there as the space isn't wide enough to park a car without it crossing over the line into the space that I parked in. I therefore parked over the line in a "normal" space to give me more to open my door and to avoid accidental dents from anyone parked next to me.

Clearly I am outside of the bay and I don't dispute that. Given I'm not really blocking another space that a car can actually use though I wondered if I would have any chance on appeal. It's only a £25 fine if paid within 14 days so not the end of the world if I do have to pay it.

Picture is below - thanks for your thoughts.


PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

187 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Do the parking terms and conditions state in a marked bay only?

Why don't you reverse in? I would have.

Stoofa

959 posts

198 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Is it worth me appealing a ticket for parking outside of a marked bay when I am clearly, not just slightly or any kind of grey area, parked in the middle of two spaces.

Just thought I'd "Readers Digest" the post - so we can see the facts.

pincher

10,545 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Don’t think you’ve got much comeback on that one really - you could possibly get a Smart car (or similar) in the space with a bollard.

You aren’t really ‘just over’ the line, you’ve completely straddled it - think you will have to swallow the £25 fine.

Nice car though thumbup


Edit - typo correction

Edited by pincher on Saturday 7th July 13:28

Red 4

10,744 posts

217 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Cheaper than getting a dent fixed.

Consider it a win and move on with your life.

Riley Blue

23,205 posts

256 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Had you parked centrally in the bay in which most of your car is, a small car could have used the space to the nearside so you've deprived the land owner of that income.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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flight147z said:
Returned to my car this morning to find a £50 parking notice for parking outside of a marked bay. I parked in my usual spot next to the entrance.
...
Ohfertheloveofgawd.

flight147z said:
I like this spot as...
...in ten words or less.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

277 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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He is not taking up two spaces though.

The one on the left is not actually a marked space as it doesn't have a line on either side of it.

So, he is only parked outside the lines of the space on the right, the other half of the car is not in a parking bay.


anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Worth a go. I parked over the line at the end of a row in an NCP (there is a 3ft gap then the ramp to the next floor next to it) and was advised by a parking dispute website to claim that the markings are unenforceable. Seems that they were right as my claim was upheld.

kestral

2,245 posts

237 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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flight147z said:
Hi all.

Returned to my car this morning to find a £50 parking notice for parking outside of a marked bay. I parked in my usual spot next to the entrance. I like this spot as these is an adjacent space with a bollard partly across it, which means a car can't park there as the space isn't wide enough to park a car without it crossing over the line into the space that I parked in. I therefore parked over the line in a "normal" space to give me more to open my door and to avoid accidental dents from anyone parked next to me.

Clearly I am outside of the bay and I don't dispute that. Given I'm not really blocking another space that a car can actually use though I wondered if I would have any chance on appeal. It's only a £25 fine if paid within 14 days so not the end of the world if I do have to pay it.

Picture is below - thanks for your thoughts.

I would fight that if I were you. Appeal it to the highest court in the land. How can anyone say you have done anything wrong.

JM

3,170 posts

236 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Car is clearly restricting access to the grit bin.


sunbeam alpine

7,249 posts

218 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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I think you'll have to pay this one - it's not like you're just over the line.

As an aside, I've been living in Belgium for a while now, and one of the things I've noticed is that parking spaces everywhere over here are usually much more generous than in the UK. I only really noticed when I dropped into a supermarket whilst back in the UK to pick up all the essentials (Colmans mustard, Branston pickle etc.) which I can't easily get over here.

pincher

10,545 posts

247 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
He is not taking up two spaces though.

The one on the left is not actually a marked space as it doesn't have a line on either side of it.

So, he is only parked outside the lines of the space on the right, the other half of the car is not in a parking bay.
So pretty much the definition of outside a bay then? rolleyes

Evanivitch

26,387 posts

152 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Shuvi McTupya said:
He is not taking up two spaces though.

The one on the left is not actually a marked space as it doesn't have a line on either side of it.

So, he is only parked outside the lines of the space on the right, the other half of the car is not in a parking bay.
If I was a pedantic person, which I am, I'd argue the bay with the telegraph pole and grit bin (mere challenges to a champion Parker) are within a bay constrained by the line and the wall.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

156 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Does it matter whether that LH bay is big enough for a car or not. Perhaps a motorcycle could park there. Perhaps the car park management use it for bin storage. Perhaps the car park management just want that bit left empty... because.

The OP is not parked entirely in one bay. End of. Bang to rights. HPLAC.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

277 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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pincher said:
So pretty much the definition of outside a bay then? rolleyes
Yup, outside a bay but not taking up two bays, which was the only point i was (trying) to make.



Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

277 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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TooMany2cvs said:
Does it matter whether that LH bay is big enough for a car or not. Perhaps a motorcycle could park there. Perhaps the car park management use it for bin storage. Perhaps the car park management just want that bit left empty... because.

The OP is not parked entirely in one bay. End of. Bang to rights. HPLAC.
Agreed, but i suspect if a bike or anyone else parked in that unmarked area they would get a ticket.



jamei303

3,084 posts

186 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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Why do people think "outside a marked bay" is pronounced "in two bays"?

bad company

21,919 posts

296 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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PurpleMoonlight said:
Do the parking terms and conditions state in a marked bay only?
This.

We need a copy of the signage and to know if the signs are placed, are they easily visible?

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

277 months

Saturday 7th July 2018
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jamei303 said:
Why do people think "outside a marked bay" is pronounced "in two bays"?
I wouldn't usually but one of the first responses talked about the car being in the middle of two spaces and i was just addressing that..I should have quoted him!