Section 59 notices & Traveller?

[4x4Tyke]

In my ignorance it seems that section 59 notices would be ideal and proportionate for dealing with the travellers occupying our local parks every summer.

So why don't the police use section 59, when on surface it appears an ideal way to ensure compliance?

Travellers camped on Pickering Park for three weeks to be 'forcibly removed'

Responses from cops and lawyers welcome, no trolls or bigots.

Edited by 4x4Tyke on Tuesday 31st July 14:28

[Paul Dishman]

The police seem to be wary about getting involved with travellers, perhaps because of the fear of a mob forming and trouble escalating.
This in turn gives the travellers almost carte blanche to behave badly, as documented elsewhere on PH.
So the police concentrate on easier targets

[ging84]

I think trying to use powers to deal with anti social driving against those in or around stationary caravans is a bit of a reach.

[Amused2death]

Why don't they make more use of the "public spaces protection order" legislation?

The behaviour of the travellers would seem to fit the criteria of the local authority to issue one.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2014/12/part/4...

To quote a small piece from this...…


(1) A local authority may make a public spaces protection order if satisfied on reasonable grounds that two conditions are met.
(2) The first condition is that—
(a) activities carried on in a public place within the authority’s area have had a detrimental effect on the quality of life of those in the locality, or
(b) it is likely that activities will be carried on in a public place within that area and that they will have such an effect.

(3) The second condition is that the effect, or likely effect, of the activities—
(a) is, or is likely to be, of a persistent or continuing nature,
(b) is, or is likely to be, such as to make the activities unreasonable, and
(c) justifies the restrictions imposed by the notice.

[Gafferjim]

A really good way is to make a hell of a noise around their campsite, day & night, they do like to sleep now and again, disrupt it.
A bunch set up on all the grass verges of a nice industrial area nearby, usual stuff, starting to make a mess and virtually closing places down because no-one wanted to cross their paths. One of the places was a warehouse for a very well known supermarket supplies (bigger than the usual names you're thinking of!) They had deliveries and pick-ups of HGV's 24 hrs, so we just had a word with all the HGV drivers one night, asked them to constantly blow their horns as they passed the caravans, it was bedlam! they upped and moved the 2nd day. (This was an industrial site with no houses, just businesses)

[CAPP0]

There is already a 150-ish page traveller thread running where this will have been discussed a gazillion times.