Speed cameras are a big single issue

[puggit]

Keep the pressure up!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/vote_2005/frontpage/4495021.stm

SPEED CAMERAS

The Conservatives have pledged to review all cameras in England and Wales and scrap those which have not reduced accidents if they come to power.

Labour on the other hand support the use of those cunningly sited little, yellow boxes and claim 80% of the public do also.

However, road safety minister David Jamieson pledged to reduce speeding penalties for those caught only doing a few miles an hour above the limit.

The Lib Dems say that speed cameras do have a role in increasing road safety but would give local authorities more of a decision in their location and use.

[docjan]

So basically they all leave wiggle room to keep profitable cameras by massaging statistics.
Oh if only the parties wernt virtually identical.

[8Pack]

Yes, us motorists should realise that we're on our own. No-ones going to help us, they just want us out of our cars.

[trax]

Well, I think common sense tells us far less than 80% back the way speed cams are used by pretend safety partnerships. And of the people that do back them, a very high percentage do because they belive the lies and falsehoods spouted by the schemes, and would be shocked by the truth.

[Don]

puggit said:

The Lib Dems say that speed cameras do have a role in increasing road safety but would give local authorities more of a decision in their location and use.

I can't imagine a *worse* policy than this! If local authorities can set them up then they will go wherever an "important" councillor would like them to be. I've seen 'em in villages which have where they are clearly there to make sure traffic *outside the right person's house* isn't piling by.

Nope. An independent, national body with no revenue incentive should decide where cameras can go - and if they're the proper solution.

Trafpol should run the infernal things, alongside proper traffic policing (with enough manpower to do it).

Fines should be abandoned. No revenue incentive for anyone.

The points system should be retained. Too many instances of speeding - inappropriate speed, if the camera is in the right place - and you finally lose your licence.

[james_j]

The Lib Dems idea would be a nightmare; as Don suggested, the possibility of a local council not running it for the benefit of a select few brown-nosers would be extremely remote.

Just as bad would be the Lib Dems idea of local taxation.

[Cooperman]

james_j said:

The Lib Dems idea would be a nightmare; as Don suggested, the possibility of a local council not running it for the benefit of a select few brown-nosers would be extremely remote. Just as bad would be the Lib Dems idea of local taxation.

Or even the Lib Dems running anything more than a children's tea party.

[Plotloss]

Cooperman said:

james_j said: The Lib Dems idea would be a nightmare; as Don suggested, the possibility of a local council not running it for the benefit of a select few brown-nosers would be extremely remote. Just as bad would be the Lib Dems idea of local taxation. Or even the Lib Dems running anything more than a children's tea party.

I'm not even sure about that Peter, I think they would arrive with coffee.

[8Pack]

We shouldn't forget that other silent war against the motorist. That of parking tickets! Saw a story on ceefax the other day.......Top position goes to.......Brighton, followed by ......Manchester.....closely followed by Liverpool. Been trying to find a link to the story......no suceess so far............still looking

[streaky]

puggit said:

Labour on the other hand support the use of those cunningly sited little, yellow boxes and claim 80% of the public do also.

100% of all politicians were caused by accidents - Streaky

[sotonS2]

8Pack said:

We shouldn't forget that other silent war against the motorist. That of parking tickets! Saw a story on ceefax the other day.......Top position goes to.......Brighton, followed by ......Manchester.....closely followed by Liverpool. Been trying to find a link to the story......no suceess so far............still looking

This one ??

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/4503925.stm

[8Pack]

sotonS2 said:

8Pack said: We shouldn't forget that other silent war against the motorist. That of parking tickets! Saw a story on ceefax the other day.......Top position goes to.......Brighton, followed by ......Manchester.....closely followed by Liverpool. Been trying to find a link to the story......no suceess so far............still looking This one ?? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/4503925.stm

That'll do SotonS2, Yep, notice the figures in the box of issued tickets!

[puggit]

Oooh, Reading has dropped to 6th from 3rd!!!

[princeperch]

saw in the local rag today the sadists ticketed a marked variety club bus which was parked up and letting the disabled kids off in a quiet road.

makes you wonder how these people sleep at night...horlicks surely wouldnt do it?

[8Pack]

It's reaping in over £1Bn a year now for the local councils so they say, stealth tax or what? and guess who's No.1 target again?

I found this earlier report from July 2004 when I was looking for the recent one. Look at the year on figures!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/3873759.stm

>> Edited by 8Pack on Thursday 5th May 01:14