Land sale - solicitor or not
Land sale - solicitor or not
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MaisiesDad

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50 posts

141 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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We are looking to sell an agricultural field, no mortgage, freehold in our name etc.. we purchased it without a solicitor doing all the forms ourselves. Now we have been told we cannot sell it without a qualified person (solicitor?) preparing a sale contract for us?? As it’s a simple sale can we not do this ourselves? I cannot find anything in law that states a solicitor has to be involved. This has come from a potential buyers solicitors. Any help please!

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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Who’s saying you have to have a solicitor?

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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You need a solicitor to process the sale of land and property in the UK.

Edit : transpires I am talking bks. Always thought that you did .

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 10th August 18:02

MaisiesDad

Original Poster:

50 posts

141 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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garyhun said:
Who’s saying you have to have a solicitor?
The potential buyers solicitor

MaisiesDad

Original Poster:

50 posts

141 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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desolate said:
You need a solicitor to process the sale of land and property in the UK.
Can you post a link to some regulation or law etc please?

MaisiesDad

Original Poster:

50 posts

141 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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desolate said:
You need a solicitor to process the sale of land and property in the UK.

Edit : transpires I am talking bks. Always thought that you did .

Edited by desolate on Friday 10th August 18:02
PMSL!!!

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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MaisiesDad said:
desolate said:
You need a solicitor to process the sale of land and property in the UK.
Can you post a link to some regulation or law etc please?
Just edited my post as I am wrong.


anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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MaisiesDad said:
garyhun said:
Who’s saying you have to have a solicitor?
The potential buyers solicitor
Thought as much.

They’re saying that so that they don’t have to, in their eyes, deal with an amateur who’ll make their job more difficult and time-consuming smile

MaisiesDad

Original Poster:

50 posts

141 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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garyhun said:
Thought as much.

They’re saying that so that they don’t have to, in their eyes, deal with an amateur who’ll make their job more difficult and time-consuming smile
Ah all starts to make sense thank you! So I can send them a copy of a sales contract (I was going to copy the one we got when we bought the land) and go from there? The buyers solicitor has stated I cannot as it has to come from a solicitor or a conveyance professional!

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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MaisiesDad said:
garyhun said:
Thought as much.

They’re saying that so that they don’t have to, in their eyes, deal with an amateur who’ll make their job more difficult and time-consuming smile
Ah all starts to make sense thank you! So I can send them a copy of a sales contract (I was going to copy the one we got when we bought the land) and go from there? The buyers solicitor has stated I cannot as it has to come from a solicitor or a conveyance professional!
Other side talking crap.

donkmeister

12,930 posts

130 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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garyhun said:
Thought as much.

They’re saying that so that they don’t have to, in their eyes, deal with an amateur who’ll make their job more difficult and time-consuming smile
This. My solicitor explained this to me once (obviously after it was clear I would be using his services again smile )

anonymous-user

84 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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garyhun said:
MaisiesDad said:
garyhun said:
Who’s saying you have to have a solicitor?
The potential buyers solicitor
Thought as much.

They’re saying that so that they don’t have to, in their eyes, deal with an amateur who’ll make their job more difficult and time-consuming smile
Well, they’ll still probably be dealing with an amateur if the OP engages a firm of solicitors, who will help them build up both sides’ bills by making the whole thing unnecessarily more difficult and time consuming, but that will be their excuse.

I wonder how long the CPSE form is for a field?

MaisiesDad

Original Poster:

50 posts

141 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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Thanks for the replies, very useful and confirms what I had thought. I’ve always been quite wary of solicitors but even more so since my Auntie got swindled out of an inheritance (google Linda Box solicitor!) I think she has been paid some of the money back but not all.

Sheepshanks

41,067 posts

149 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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Get the buyer to pay your legal fees.

Integroo

11,631 posts

115 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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Yup, problem is it might cost the buyer twice as much to pay his solicitor to deal with an amateur.

tinnitusjosh

356 posts

102 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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MaisiesDad said:
Thanks for the replies, very useful and confirms what I had thought. I’ve always been quite wary of solicitors but even more so since my Auntie got swindled out of an inheritance (google Linda Box solicitor!) I think she has been paid some of the money back but not all.
I think the guy is half right, to be honest...

You don't need a solicitor or a conveyancer to do the work, but if you don't then you probably need to visit a solicitor in order to verify your identity (see boxes 12 to 14 on form AP1 - the application to amend the title)

bladebloke

396 posts

225 months

Friday 10th August 2018
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Actually, drawing up contracts for sale of / instruments for the transfer of land are one of the few things that constitute reserved legal activities and so need to be done by/under supervision of somebody qualified. See sch 2 of the legal services act 2007. A buyer’s solicitor won’t do it do it for a seller on account of various conduct issues that arise. And even if thy could, as somebody else has said most wouldn’t be willing to deal with somebody who’s not represented - they’ll want a professional to make sure they’ll get decent answers to enquiries and ease the practicalities of exchange and completion.

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

186 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Integroo said:
Yup, problem is it might cost the buyer twice as much to pay his solicitor to deal with an amateur.
This.

Just pay a solicitor a fee to get the work done?

vitesse2000

369 posts

193 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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Transferred a package of land from our garden to our daughter for her to build a house on, and she had to use a local solicitor as ours was handling our side of the transfer.

A relatively simple transaction, ballsed up and over complicated by this solicitor or the rubbish paralegal it was subbed too.

Bill was much higher than ours, and weeks after the bill was settled they tried to stripe her for another £100 as they said they they got the Land Registry fees wrong.

Told them by email that she would only pay under protest and to arrange a time to take a card payment over the phone, and that a formal complaint would be going into the senior partner regarding the mess that had been made of the entire process - she got an apologetic phone call 10 minutes later from the useless paralegal telling her to forget the extra £100 and inviting her to discuss what she thought had gone wrong. To my daughters credit, she accepted the non-payment offer in writing but declined to take her excuses - she’s currently composing the complaint...


Jasandjules

72,606 posts

259 months

Saturday 11th August 2018
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You can do it yourself if you wish, nothing to stop you. However, there are times when having someone who is insured deal with the matter can be sensible, subject to cost etc.