PCN

[Humpy D]

Apologies for another thread regarding a PCN.

My OH received a PCN in June relating to a driving offence which took place in April. We appealed immediately but until yesterday had heard nothing. Until we received a Charge Certificate saying we now owed £195.00!!

We completed an online form advising that they rejected the appeal on the 6th July and sent a copy of said letter. We never received this letter. We didn't chase up the appeal as I believe the council have up to 56 days to respond.

I have gone back to the council to say that we never received the letter and asking why this wasn't sent by Recorded Delivery but I fear this is a complete waste of time.

It looks like the next step is to wait for the Order of Recovery as I understand there is a box on here we can tick which states that we never received the appeal rejection. Is that the case? If so, is this worth doing?

[Humpy D]

Another question regarding this.

How long do we have to wait until we receive the Order of Recovery? We are away soon and don't want to miss this and end up with the bailiffs at our door!!!

My OH is all for just paying the £195 but I'm keen to wait for the Order of Recovery to tell them that we never received the appeal rejection in the first place.

[roadsmash]

What was the driving offence?

[KevinCamaroSS]

If it is council surely it is a parking offence, not a driving offence?

[Red Devil]

Not necessarily. Any LA which has applied to the Secretary of State for powers under the TMA 2004 can issue penalties for a range of moving traffic offences
https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/18/sched...

[MrJuice]

I had the same. £30 PCN appealed on grounds that have previously won an appeal. Appeal rejected and sent a bill for £90 which I just paid because I am stupid. Stupid because I should have just paid the £30 to start with

Harrow council are a bunch of wkers

[Pica-Pica]

No such thing as Recorded Delivery. There is Track and Trace, or Signed For. There is also Certificate of Posting. Not many organisations do any of those AFAIK.

[Humpy D]

We have finally received the Order for Recovery of unpaid penalty charge (Form PE2) and intended to complete the Statutory Declaration saying that we didn't receive the rejection notice but I have noticed that a paragraph on the form says that the declaration must be signed by a commissioner for oaths (e.g. a solicitor). Is this is new requirement as I have looked at the appealnow.com website and it makes no reference to this.

If I still intend to complete the Statutory Declaration any ideas how much it would take to get a solicitor to sign the form?

Thanks.

[S11Steve]

Humpy D said:

We have finally received the Order for Recovery of unpaid penalty charge (Form PE2) and intended to complete the Statutory Declaration saying that we didn't receive the rejection notice but I have noticed that a paragraph on the form says that the declaration must be signed by a commissioner for oaths (e.g. a solicitor). Is this is new requirement as I have looked at the appealnow.com website and it makes no reference to this.

If I still intend to complete the Statutory Declaration any ideas how much it would take to get a solicitor to sign the form?

Thanks.

Complete the Stat Dec truthfully (no acknowledgement of appeal rejection or similar) and take it to the local court where a clerk can counter sign it for free. Or at least our local court does.
It then goes back to the TEC in Northampton who rubber stamp it, and tell the local authority to revert it back to stage 1.

Our corporate lawyers can countersign them, but then they add £5 to the bill of one of the other case of ours that they are dealing with