Police in-car radar question

[zax]

Just wondering - does the in-car speed trap kit used by police usually "save" the speed at which a driver is clocked? Reason for asking is a few weeks back I was stopped for exceeding the limit (109 km/h in an 80km/h zone). It was a fair cop (had at least 112 on the clock but slowing as I spotted them) and I've already paid the fine, but we did have an interesting discussion when I asked my new policemen (and woman) friends to show me the speed they'd logged me at on their radar thingy "It's not there...", "It's gone now...." followed by "but we *all* saw it reading 109". Sorry, not sure what system it was...

[IOLAIRE]

zax said:

Just wondering - does the in-car speed trap kit used by police usually "save" the speed at which a driver is clocked? Reason for asking is a few weeks back I was stopped for exceeding the limit (109 km/h in an 80km/h zone). It was a fair cop (had at least 112 on the clock but slowing as I spotted them) and I've already paid the fine, but we did have an interesting discussion when I asked my new policemen (and woman) friends to show me the speed they'd logged me at on their radar thingy "It's not there...", "It's gone now...." followed by "but we *all* saw it reading 109". Sorry, not sure what system it was...

I have to admit Zax, that I know nothing about the Finnish police, but you were probably caught using VASCAR, which they have complete control over.
If the reading was gone, they either erased it or switched off the machine.
You shouldn't have paid it, they're at it!!

[Dwight VanDriver]

Whilst ACPO Code of Practice for Operational use of Enforcement Equipment advises that the reading on the Vascar unit should be shown to an offender, likewise handheld, in a High Court judgement Westwater v Milton [1980] this is NOT a legal requirement and advised reading should be shown and offender given the opportunity to view where possible.

DVD

[IOLAIRE]

Dwight VanDriver said:

Whilst ACPO Code of Practice for Operational use of Enforcement Equipment advises that the reading on the Vascar unit should be shown to an offender, likewise handheld, in a High Court judgement Westwater v Milton [1980] this is NOT a legal requirement and advised reading should be shown and offender given the opportunity to view where possible. DVD

Absolutely DVD, but it bloody well should be a requirement for the most obvious of reasons.
Mind you I have already stated that I haven't a clue about Finnish law, but at the end of the day, the procedure with VASCAR can't be that different, also from my Audi Quttro experience, the Finns produce some damn fine drivers, so they must be doing something right!

[zax]

Thanks... interesting responses.

Probably what happened was they saw my speed as I was slowing? Maybe the readout said 109 for a moment until settling on the "logged" speed?

But anyway, my word against the word of 3 police there was little point arguing the facts, particulary since I know I was doing at least 109 when they would have first seen me. And the usual "lucky they didn't clock me 5 minutes earlier" applies..

Of course this was on a dry, wide, smooth a-road equivalent with fields on either side and a traffic volume of about one car every ten minutes. Prime time for the traffic cops here becuase the snow just went away and everybody is excited after rediscovering summer tyres I considered buying a slow diesel car for a day or so after paying the fine, but then figured what's the point? I can break 80km/h on a bicycle if I try hard enough

[IOLAIRE]

zax said:

Thanks... interesting responses. Probably what happened was they saw my speed as I was slowing? Maybe the readout said 109 for a moment until settling on the "logged" speed? But anyway, my word against the word of 3 police there was little point arguing the facts, particulary since I know I was doing at least 109 when they would have first seen me. And the usual "lucky they didn't clock me 5 minutes earlier" applies.. Of course this was on a dry, wide, smooth a-road equivalent with fields on either side and a traffic volume of about one car every ten minutes. Prime time for the traffic cops here becuase the snow just went away and everybody is excited after rediscovering summer tyres I considered buying a slow diesel car for a day or so after paying the fine, but then figured what's the point? I can break 80km/h on a bicycle if I try hard enough

Very philosophical Zax,
if you find out any more about police procedure up there let us know, it would be interesting.