Buying battery acid
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7w7

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551 posts

150 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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I bought a bike battery and in my foolishness failed to notice that it is a dry battery - with no acid bottle included to fill it due to the change in law. Yes, I should have actually read the description.

The weird thing is that I can buy the acid separately online...?

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/licensi...

The gov website is pretty unambiguous...if I buy the sulphuric acid in the required strength online, I am committing an offence.

Have the retailers basically not caught up yet?




Edited by 7w7 on Tuesday 28th August 12:30

Oceanrower

1,352 posts

141 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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I believe that if you buy it in a shop, it should come with acid. AFAIK the "no acid" bit applies to postal sales.

bongtom

2,018 posts

112 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Can’t you just go back to the shop?

WatchfulEye

505 posts

157 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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A member of the public cannot buy, acquire or have in their possession battery acid without a home office licence, unless that acid is part of a specific object (Eg. A battery).

It is legal to possess a battery which contains acid electrolyte. It is illegal to possess a dry battery and bottle of electrolyte.

Acid can be possessed as part of a business or trade without a licence. So, the powerfully built company directors amongst us, can buy and possess acid legally in the name if their company.

For the purpose of sale of lead acid batteries, the retailer needs to fill the battery prior to dispatch. Once inside the battery, the acid ceases to be a restricted substance.

There is no point in the retailer selling a dry battery to a consumer, as the consumer cannot acquire the acid with which to fill it.

mellowman

352 posts

277 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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I bought a scooter battery recently, via mail order, and it required the separate acid to be added to the dry battery. Both were supplied as part of the battery kit.

Oceanrower

1,352 posts

141 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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As mellowman.

Bought on two weeks ago. Acid came in a plastic bottle. That was from a shop, not online.

WatchfulEye

505 posts

157 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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The restrictions on sulfuric acid came in in April this year,so it looks like retailers are unaware of the law.

It is an offence for the seller to supply the acid without appropriate checks (such as sight of the customer's licence and ID) , as well as for the customer to possess it.

7w7

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551 posts

150 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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bongtom said:
Can’t you just go back to the shop?
I bought it online, I'll just return it as I don't want the hassle of buying acid.



7w7

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551 posts

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Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Oceanrower said:
As mellowman.

Bought on two weeks ago. Acid came in a plastic bottle. That was from a shop, not online.
If I interpreted the .gov information correctly, the shop broke the law selling you the acid? Not 100% sure.

ianwayne

8,505 posts

297 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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I've bought several vehicle batteries "wet" (i.e. with acid already in them) online without a problem (car and motorcycle).

The sellers use a different courier if there are those such as Royal Mail who won't ship them. As long as they aren't turned upside down, it shouldn't be an issue.

I wasn't aware that they can't ship the acid separately but its understandable, and the restrictions on buying it. There's a car battery shop near me who would likely top up a dry battery for a small charge though.

Edited by ianwayne on Tuesday 28th August 19:23

Nampahc Niloc

910 posts

107 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Does this also apply to acid for etching?

7w7

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551 posts

150 months

Tuesday 28th August 2018
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Nampahc Niloc said:
Does this also apply to acid for etching?
Potentially, depending on what acid and the strength that you use. The link I put at the top describes the substances banned at specific strengths.

RichB

56,224 posts

313 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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Reviving this old thread. For my classics I have always bought batteries form Lincon Batteries in Essex. They make classic rubber cased tar topped batteries that look the part in classic cars. Last one I bought was back in 2010 and was supplied with acid but now they supply them dry. So that begs the question, where am I supposed to buy the acid? I expect I can find a back street garage somewhere but as Lincon are one of the most well known battery manufacturers in the classic car market I wonder what they think people will do? scratchchin

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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I'd ring the battery supplier & ask them.

Riley Blue

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255 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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J__Wood

578 posts

90 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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Riley Blue said:
Although at bottom of that page it does state Please note we only deliver to registered UK business at non-residential addresses. Minimum order £100 net.

kestral

2,225 posts

236 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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Riley Blue said:
Only to Businesses, no domestic delivery. Minimum order £100.

kestral

2,225 posts

236 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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RichB said:
Reviving this old thread. For my classics I have always bought batteries form Lincon Batteries in Essex. They make classic rubber cased tar topped batteries that look the part in classic cars. Last one I bought was back in 2010 and was supplied with acid but now they supply them dry. So that begs the question, where am I supposed to buy the acid? I expect I can find a back street garage somewhere but as Lincon are one of the most well known battery manufacturers in the classic car market I wonder what they think people will do? scratchchin
Ask them. rolleyes

RichB

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313 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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kestral said:
RichB said:
Reviving this old thread. For my classics I have always bought batteries form Lincon Batteries in Essex. They make classic rubber cased tar topped batteries that look the part in classic cars. Last one I bought was back in 2010 and was supplied with acid but now they supply them dry. So that begs the question, where am I supposed to buy the acid? I expect I can find a back street garage somewhere but as Lincon are one of the most well known battery manufacturers in the classic car market I wonder what they think people will do? scratchchin
Ask them. rolleyes
Yeah, obviously will do that but it was past business closing time when I read the email back from them confirming the type I need and noticed the chap said it would be supplied dry so I was just wondering. Guess I should have known better then ask other friendly car enthusiasts on here... rolleyes

Edited by RichB on Friday 1st April 22:49

poo at Paul's

14,607 posts

204 months

Friday 1st April 2022
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RichB said:
Yeah, obviously will do that but it was past business closing time when I read the email back from them confirming the type I need and noticed the chap said it would be supplied dry so I was just wondering. Guess I should have known better then ask other friendly car enthusiasts on here... rolleyes

Edited by RichB on Friday 1st April 22:49
You can take it to any place that will have the acid and they will fill it for you. Most common places will be motorcycle shops as they do lots of batteries and also have to buy them in dry. But some old school garages may do it to.
Since it is a car battery and will take more acid that a typical bike, call the bike shop first to check they can do it, but i have done it at a few round my way and they are fine doing it.