Parking in hospitals
Discussion
The signage says Car Park 5 Patients & Visitors Only. Parking is free and nothing on the signage to suggest otherswise about type of patient or type of visit. Nor does it say on the enterance certain visitor/patients need to park in certain car parks.
If someone decided to visit their local hospital and parked in the correct Patient & Visitors car park but did not visit a patient and just visited the grounds for a walk as there is a nice pond or even my local hospital has a free art gallery should this person get a penalty notice/invoice.
I say no as its in the contract, they are a visitor end of.
My collegue says they are taking the mick and should get an invoice.
If someone decided to visit their local hospital and parked in the correct Patient & Visitors car park but did not visit a patient and just visited the grounds for a walk as there is a nice pond or even my local hospital has a free art gallery should this person get a penalty notice/invoice.
I say no as its in the contract, they are a visitor end of.
My collegue says they are taking the mick and should get an invoice.
PurpleMoonlight said:
I agree with your colleague.
It's a hospital not a recreational area.
But that is just your opinion and is not part of the contract/signage. The signage just says Visitors not Visitors of Patients.It's a hospital not a recreational area.
My local hospital built a new facility, they received a discount on the tax they pay if as part of the building works they put in community attractions/facilities e.g. the new Art gallery. They are also installing a orchard soon. These are for the wider public not just patients and people visiting patients.
You may be technically right, but you also know that it's inconsiderate parking in hospital car parks by people with no business there that leads to charging bone fide patients and gets parasite companies like Parking Eye let in to fine people who had to wait longer than expected for outpatient appointments.
No one has been fined/invoiced its just something we are talking about.
I am correct as in the contract/signage has not been broken.
Its also not reasonable to install a public community art gallery and expect people to only access it on a bus. Stupid dessision yes to put it in a busy hospital.
I am correct as in the contract/signage has not been broken.
Its also not reasonable to install a public community art gallery and expect people to only access it on a bus. Stupid dessision yes to put it in a busy hospital.
Not really worthy of all the FFS, for two reasons.
One, Paul is quite correct - from a narrow legalistic viewpoint, it would be unreasonable to assume that the broadly understood term "visitor" has, in this particular case been redefined as "Visitor to patient currently in this hospital" - does that only include those admitted, or those temporarily in A&E?
Two, it's hypothetical, and the question wasn't "morally, is it right to park here?".
One, Paul is quite correct - from a narrow legalistic viewpoint, it would be unreasonable to assume that the broadly understood term "visitor" has, in this particular case been redefined as "Visitor to patient currently in this hospital" - does that only include those admitted, or those temporarily in A&E?
Two, it's hypothetical, and the question wasn't "morally, is it right to park here?".
PurpleMoonlight said:
I agree with your colleague.
It's a hospital not a recreational area.
Well an art gallery open to the public is not a frontline medical resource so you could argue it is a recreational area, and treated as such given the reduction in taxation for such purposesIt's a hospital not a recreational area.
OP which hospital is it?
Edited by pavarotti1980 on Thursday 30th August 13:57
randlemarcus said:
Not really worthy of all the FFS, for two reasons.
One, Paul is quite correct - from a narrow legalistic viewpoint, it would be unreasonable to assume that the broadly understood term "visitor" has, in this particular case been redefined as "Visitor to patient currently in this hospital" - does that only include those admitted, or those temporarily in A&E?
Two, it's hypothetical, and the question wasn't "morally, is it right to park here?".
I’ll repeat. FFS. Is pistonheads now reduced to this drivel?One, Paul is quite correct - from a narrow legalistic viewpoint, it would be unreasonable to assume that the broadly understood term "visitor" has, in this particular case been redefined as "Visitor to patient currently in this hospital" - does that only include those admitted, or those temporarily in A&E?
Two, it's hypothetical, and the question wasn't "morally, is it right to park here?".
Why not ‘visitor to England’ ‘Visitor to Europe’
I despair.
Lazadude said:
I think you'll find the art gallery/orchard etc is for people who have been in hospital for weeks and want something other than a ward and the cafeteria to look at.
Hospital parking is hard enough already without people parking who don't have appointments or relatives there.
Bet that's not how the Trust presented their requests for funding.Hospital parking is hard enough already without people parking who don't have appointments or relatives there.
Agree about hospital parking, but as above, it's a wording question, not a real life one.
PAULJ5555 said:
The signage says Car Park 5 Patients & Visitors Only. Parking is free and nothing on the signage to suggest otherswise about type of patient or type of visit. Nor does it say on the enterance certain visitor/patients need to park in certain car parks.
If someone decided to visit their local hospital and parked in the correct Patient & Visitors car park but did not visit a patient and just visited the grounds for a walk as there is a nice pond or even my local hospital has a free art gallery should this person get a penalty notice/invoice.
I say no as its in the contract, they are a visitor end of.
My collegue says they are taking the mick and should get an invoice.
If "Patient and Visitor" parking is free does that mean it's only "Staff" who have to pay? If someone decided to visit their local hospital and parked in the correct Patient & Visitors car park but did not visit a patient and just visited the grounds for a walk as there is a nice pond or even my local hospital has a free art gallery should this person get a penalty notice/invoice.
I say no as its in the contract, they are a visitor end of.
My collegue says they are taking the mick and should get an invoice.
Is there actually a pay machine in the car park and who uses it?
konark said:
How would anyone know what the driver of the parked car was doing?
They most likely don't. I'm at the hospital for treatment 4 times a week and the car is usually left there all week. Day one I drive there but can't drive home due to the drugs I'm on, so I get the bus home. The rest of the week is mostly the same...I can't drive due to the drugs, so it's just parked there all week and collected at the weekend, when the drugs are out of my system. Some people won't like that I guess, nowt I can do about that.
mp3manager said:
konark said:
How would anyone know what the driver of the parked car was doing?
They most likely don't. I'm at the hospital for treatment 4 times a week and the car is usually left there all week. Day one I drive there but can't drive home due to the drugs I'm on, so I get the bus home. The rest of the week is mostly the same...I can't drive due to the drugs, so it's just parked there all week and collected at the weekend, when the drugs are out of my system. Some people won't like that I guess, nowt I can do about that.
mp3manager said:
They most likely don't.
I'm at the hospital for treatment 4 times a week and the car is usually left there all week. Day one I drive there but can't drive home due to the drugs I'm on, so I get the bus home. The rest of the week is mostly the same...I can't drive due to the drugs, so it's just parked there all week and collected at the weekend, when the drugs are out of my system. Some people won't like that I guess, nowt I can do about that.
Why not take the bus there on the 1st day of treatment? I'm at the hospital for treatment 4 times a week and the car is usually left there all week. Day one I drive there but can't drive home due to the drugs I'm on, so I get the bus home. The rest of the week is mostly the same...I can't drive due to the drugs, so it's just parked there all week and collected at the weekend, when the drugs are out of my system. Some people won't like that I guess, nowt I can do about that.
Countdown said:
Why not take the bus there on the 1st day of treatment?
Because I don't want to. 
And really why should I? Seriously, I want to continue an independent and as normal a lifestyle as long as possible and driving helps keep a bit of normality.
And I keep an overnight bag in the boot of the car, in case I take a funny turn and need admiting to a ward, which has happened in the past.
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