Why does it continue?
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puggit

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49,806 posts

278 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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We see every week more and more evidence that the government, in cahoots with the Scameraships, is ramping up the 'anti-speeding' project with more and more cameras and talivans etc.

However, if it is to be expected that a forthcoming European Court of Human Rights case is to follow 2 other previous cases from other countries, and ban the use of NoIPs - why is the escalation continuing?

Do they know something we don't?

blueyes

4,799 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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Either they are geting in as many as possible before the deadline or they know they are going to get away with it and the election has gone so they are sticking it to us big time to make up for the quiet pre-election period.

The latter I believe.

BTW- in Italy they can't give you the points unless they stop you... just the fine. Privacy laws or something.

jenkinsd

46 posts

274 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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Not true for Italy, give you points and fine from photo.

Easy alternative to points 'don't know who was driving' that's double the fine but no points.

If you are rich enough you can drive as fast as your little heart desires.

blueyes

4,799 posts

282 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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jenkinsd said:
Not true for Italy, give you points and fine from photo.

Easy alternative to points 'don't know who was driving' that's double the fine but no points.



So....like I said...... they can't give you the points unless they stop you.

As for double the fine... well that depends who you know... doesn't it?

Rob_the_Sparky

1,000 posts

268 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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I think the no stop, no points is Holland...

Peter Ward

2,097 posts

286 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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How can it be that we have a common lawmaking body yet different application of human rights around the speeding laws? I would hope that before they start making points applicable across the whole of the EU they would first get the points policies in line. Or are we guity of goldplating the regulations again?

gopher

5,160 posts

289 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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Does anyone know when the first of these ECHR cases are due to be heard, and is Idris Fransis one of (if not, the) first?

cheers

Paul

puggit

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49,806 posts

278 months

Tuesday 10th May 2005
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I think Idris is certainly up near the front of the queue.

IIRC the government was asked to submit information in January this year. I believe the case won't be heard until next year...

abd said:
Eight Motorists' Right to Silence Defence to be heard by European Court of Human Rights.
The European Court of Human Rights has accepted eight motorists' applications claiming that S172 of the 1988 Road Traffic Act breaches the right to silence implicit in Article 6 of the European Convention on Human Rights. Given that 90% of applications are rejected at this first stage, this is an important step in a process which, if successful, will make the speed camera system unworkable.
The British government has been asked by the European Court of Human Rights to respond to these applications by January 18th and 19th 2005. The applicants will then be able to respond in turn and a court verdict is expected some time in 2006.

www.abd.org.uk/righttosilence.htm