MOT Test Station Distance
Discussion
I don't think it's going to fail, it's a looked after car with very few miles and family owned. I just want my MOT to be done by someone I know and that I can pop home whilst I wait. The car will only be driven back for it's MOT except a few fuel/toilet stops, which are okay I presume?
http://www.rjerrard.co.uk/law/cases/richards.htm
That distance is fine, but I would make sure it's really really booked first just in case!
That distance is fine, but I would make sure it's really really booked first just in case!
It is entirely legal.
My son was working in Germany and his MoT ran out just before he was due to come back to England. He booked the MoT near his UK home and drove from Cologne via Calais and Dover to Biggleswade, where is passed. Before doing that he checked with a family friend who was a Met Police Inspector and he said the law is clear. It is permitted to drive to a PRE-BOOKED MoT. The distance is not specified.
It would be a good idea to get confirmation of the booking by email from the MoT station to save any possible hassle.
My son was working in Germany and his MoT ran out just before he was due to come back to England. He booked the MoT near his UK home and drove from Cologne via Calais and Dover to Biggleswade, where is passed. Before doing that he checked with a family friend who was a Met Police Inspector and he said the law is clear. It is permitted to drive to a PRE-BOOKED MoT. The distance is not specified.
It would be a good idea to get confirmation of the booking by email from the MoT station to save any possible hassle.
Cat said:
TheRainMaker said:
It’s very easy to say the car is roadworthy if you have a valid MOT, not so easy without one.
A vehicle is either roadworthy or it isn't, a valid MOT has no bearing on that fact. Cat
BertBert said:
TheRainMaker said:
My car is not classed as roadworthy if it does not have a valid MOT, take it up with Ageas if you wish.
Out of interest, how's does it phrase the condition?Policy document said:
General exclusions which apply to your Legal Expenses policy
There is no cover:
<...>
Where at the time of the insured incident you were disqualified from driving, did not hold a licence to drive or the vehicle did not have a valid MOT certificate or road tax or comply with any laws relating to its ownership or use.
(my bold) So the exclusion only appears to apply to legal expenses claims, which seems mildly odd. There is a reference to roadworthiness in the personal injury section, however I can find nothing about roadworthiness or MOTs in the general motor claims section so outwith any evidence to the contrary it does seem that RainMaker could be misinformed. Even then, if they did say that it applied more generally to motor claims the Ombudsman disagrees http://www.ombudsman-decisions.org.uk/viewPDF.aspx... (the decision is 5 years old but I have no reason to suspect it's not still relevant):There is no cover:
<...>
Where at the time of the insured incident you were disqualified from driving, did not hold a licence to drive or the vehicle did not have a valid MOT certificate or road tax or comply with any laws relating to its ownership or use.
Ombudsman said:
I am therefore satisfied that the fact the vehicle had no MOT is not material to the circumstances of the accident. That means I do not consider it fair or reasonable for One Insurance to rely on this strict breach of the policy condition in order to decline the claim.
It would seem then that just because there are words in the policy, doesn't necessarily mean that they are always enforceable.Not sure I'd be relying on this personally, but in any case and as ever things aren't quite as simple as they might seem.
Cooperman said:
It is entirely legal.
My son was working in Germany and his MoT ran out just before he was due to come back to England. He booked the MoT near his UK home and drove from Cologne via Calais and Dover to Biggleswade, where is passed. Before doing that he checked with a family friend who was a Met Police Inspector and he said the law is clear. It is permitted to drive to a PRE-BOOKED MoT. The distance is not specified.
It would be a good idea to get confirmation of the booking by email from the MoT station to save any possible hassle.
^^ That surprises me.My son was working in Germany and his MoT ran out just before he was due to come back to England. He booked the MoT near his UK home and drove from Cologne via Calais and Dover to Biggleswade, where is passed. Before doing that he checked with a family friend who was a Met Police Inspector and he said the law is clear. It is permitted to drive to a PRE-BOOKED MoT. The distance is not specified.
It would be a good idea to get confirmation of the booking by email from the MoT station to save any possible hassle.
Personally, I wouldn't attempt it, but other than the lack of insurance legal cover, it seems to be OK.
deckster said:
BertBert said:
TheRainMaker said:
My car is not classed as roadworthy if it does not have a valid MOT, take it up with Ageas if you wish.
Out of interest, how's does it phrase the condition?Policy document said:
General exclusions which apply to your Legal Expenses policy
There is no cover:
<...>
Where at the time of the insured incident you were disqualified from driving, did not hold a licence to drive or the vehicle did not have a valid MOT certificate or road tax or comply with any laws relating to its ownership or use.
(my bold) So the exclusion only appears to apply to legal expenses claims, which seems mildly odd. There is a reference to roadworthiness in the personal injury section, however I can find nothing about roadworthiness or MOTs in the general motor claims section so outwith any evidence to the contrary it does seem that RainMaker could be misinformed. Even then, if they did say that it applied more generally to motor claims the Ombudsman disagrees http://www.ombudsman-decisions.org.uk/viewPDF.aspx... (the decision is 5 years old but I have no reason to suspect it's not still relevant):There is no cover:
<...>
Where at the time of the insured incident you were disqualified from driving, did not hold a licence to drive or the vehicle did not have a valid MOT certificate or road tax or comply with any laws relating to its ownership or use.
Ombudsman said:
I am therefore satisfied that the fact the vehicle had no MOT is not material to the circumstances of the accident. That means I do not consider it fair or reasonable for One Insurance to rely on this strict breach of the policy condition in order to decline the claim.
It would seem then that just because there are words in the policy, doesn't necessarily mean that they are always enforceable.Not sure I'd be relying on this personally, but in any case and as ever things aren't quite as simple as they might seem.
Bert
BertBert said:
Nice work deckster! I had a policy once that had an MOT exclusion, but none of them do now.
Bert
Mine still does, so again might not be so clear-cut as it would seem.Bert
The way I was told was, if something was to go wrong with the car which resulted in a claim and you had no MOT, it is a very hard starting point to suggest you have made an effort to make sure the car is roadworthy, basically, you are on the back foot out of the gate.
Also not sure if it is relevant but the link above was to a third party.
Screen Shot 2018-11-09 at 08.20.51 by The Rain Maker, on FlickrI bought a car in Eire and it had all the necessary local legal certificates. To comply with UK law I had to obtain a UK one. So I brought it across on the Ferry, drove from Fishguard across Wales, into England and then onto my local garage near me in Hertfordshire to do the pre-booked MOT .
It failed as it had no floor (apparently Eire don't mind cars with no floors) and took 6 weeks to fix which was lucky it was near me and not the other side of Wales.
As far as I genuinely believed it was road worthy, just needed a UK Certificate. I was perfectly legal as the journey in the UK went straight to the MOT (with a stop for fuel and a coffee).
It failed as it had no floor (apparently Eire don't mind cars with no floors) and took 6 weeks to fix which was lucky it was near me and not the other side of Wales.
As far as I genuinely believed it was road worthy, just needed a UK Certificate. I was perfectly legal as the journey in the UK went straight to the MOT (with a stop for fuel and a coffee).
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