LAW ON BUYING NUMBER PLATES
LAW ON BUYING NUMBER PLATES
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okenemem

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1,422 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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i went to buy nuberplates from halfords and the amount of information they ask and require is ridiculous.

phone number , email, etc

can someone explain to me how these regulations help protect us .

i asked the guy on the till where all the information goes, he couldnt give me a straight answer

where does my id and logbook information go to??

AJB88

14,713 posts

189 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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okenemem said:
where does my id and logbook information go to??
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Butter Face

33,416 posts

178 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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They keep your information on file in case they are audited by the DVLA as they are required to.

‘Keep records

You must keep records of the number plates you supply or you can be fined up to £1,000 and and/or suspended from the register.

Records must include:

the registration number
the customer’s name and address and entitlement to the number plate
a number that can be used to trace a customer and is taken from an original document from an accepted form of ID, such as a driving licence or V5C
You must keep records for 3 years. You must let DVLA, the police and Trading Standards see these records if they ask.’

Email and phone number will be for their own records and you shouldn’t necessarily have to give them or you can opt out of any marketing etc.

okenemem

Original Poster:

1,422 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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can i ask , how do you know this ??

Butter Face

33,416 posts

178 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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I work at a garage where we supply number plates.

Hammer67

6,161 posts

202 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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okenemem said:
can someone explain to me how these regulations help protect us .
By stopping any Tom, Dick or Harry buying a set of your number plates and fitting them to a cloned vehicle causing you a world of pain.


surveyor

18,494 posts

202 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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I just order from these people with uk legal spacing and text options.

http://legalshowplates.com

Pothole

34,367 posts

300 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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okenemem said:
i went to buy nuberplates from halfords and the amount of information they ask and require is ridiculous.

phone number , email, etc

can someone explain to me how these regulations help protect us .

i asked the guy on the till where all the information goes, he couldnt give me a straight answer

where does my id and logbook information go to??
1. these regs have been in place for years and were discussed at length on here and in the motoring press when they were introduced (and in mainstream newspapers, too IIRC.

2. It seems like a no-brainer to me to have to provide a V5 (logbook) or any T.D or H could waltz in and clone your, or my plate on a whim - there's one possible level of "protection".

3. You honestly expected a minimum wage drone behind the till at Halfords to know what his head office would "doing" with the info he has been asked to enter into his system before making up your plates? Why on earth would he know or care?

4. I doubt "your" information "goes" anywhere. It'll be kept on file, as per GDPR, until such time as the regs allow Halfords to delete it from their database. I'm thinking perhaps DVLA do spot checks or have alerts in place in case the same plates are requested more than a "normal" number of times or the same ID is used to support lots of different plate requests etc.

5. Calm down, dear, It's Christmas and it really wasn't that difficult, was it?

paintman

7,828 posts

208 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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Theoretically it makes the ringers life more difficult.

if it's any consolation I needed a front number plate for my Sprinter van.
I went to my local motor factors.
They wouldn't make it without the required documents to prove who I was & that I was the owner of the van.
I've had a trade account with them for years, we're on first name terms & my van was parked outside & is sign written incl my name & both telephone numbers.
They are just complying with the law & I have no problem with that.
As it turned out it was actually cheaper buying one from one of the ebay 'show plate' sellers who use the law to their own advantage.

DIW35

4,185 posts

218 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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It's another ill thought out knee jerk reaction piece of legislation supposedly to make it harder for wrong 'uns to get their hands on number plates that they're not entitled to, all the time overlooking the fact that you can buy number plates from a number of sources that don't require all the legislated paraphernalia.

okenemem

Original Poster:

1,422 posts

212 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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Hammer67 said:
By stopping any Tom, Dick or Harry buying a set of your number plates and fitting them to a cloned vehicle causing you a world of pain.
lol any tom dick and harry can buy them from ebay, market, or dodgey sellers, so there not really stopping much, and to be honest the amount of questions they ask i think ill get plates of ebay next time

Hammer67

6,161 posts

202 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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okenemem said:
Hammer67 said:
By stopping any Tom, Dick or Harry buying a set of your number plates and fitting them to a cloned vehicle causing you a world of pain.
lol any tom dick and harry can buy them from ebay, market, or dodgey sellers, so there not really stopping much, and to be honest the amount of questions they ask i think ill get plates of ebay next time
Didn't say it was water tight. Lol.

Not sure what is so onerous about providing name, address, contact details, proof of who you are and proof you own the vehicle.

The law is not policed, were it policed the options you are advocating would perhaps not be available.

Go ahead, get them made outside of the law.

In fact get 2 sets made and sell the spare set on eBay to recoup some of the cost.

Someone will use them for something or other. Can't think what. Lol.

ninepoint2

3,761 posts

178 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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surveyor said:
I just order from these people with uk legal spacing and text options.

http://legalshowplates.com
Or e-bay, bought many from there (all legal) without having to produce any documentation

majordad

3,628 posts

215 months

Sunday 23rd December 2018
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We don’t have the same requirements in Ireland, just pop into local motor factors, pay your money and ten minutes later fit them. Works well !

AlexRS2782

8,373 posts

231 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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anonymous said:
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Nah, he's just pissed off that Halfords rumbled his attempt at cloning a car he found on AutoTrader so that he can avoid any tolls / congestion charging / speeding over the Christmas / New Year period hehe

Graveworm

8,951 posts

89 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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ninepoint2 said:
Or e-bay, bought many from there (all legal) without having to produce any documentation
Very technically it is not legal to use a number plate on a vehicle on a road that was not purchased from an RNPS and it should bear their mark. That's why they are called show plates.
On its own I doubt anything will happen if letters etc are legal but it is something the good guys look out for to spot the bad guys so it will increase chances of getting stopped.


Edited by Graveworm on Monday 24th December 19:49

paintman

7,828 posts

208 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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Mine was made by Flashplates (just been & looked at it as I couldn't remember the name smile) & is fully compliant as to size, shape, letters & number, details of maker, postcode, BS number

The details of maker's name, postcode, BS number aren't checked as part of the MoT.
"0.1 Registration plates
You must check the registration plates on all vehicles except for:

unregistered vehicles
foreign registered vehicles
diplomatic vehicles
military vehicles
You don’t need to inspect the following items:

the supplier’s name
postcode
BS number
logos or emblems outside the minimum margin around the registration number"
https://www.mot-testing.service.gov.uk/documents/m...

Edited by paintman on Monday 24th December 12:42

Flumpo

4,024 posts

91 months

Monday 24th December 2018
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I don’t know if they have tightened up, but a year ago I got a new plate for the wife’s car. I just had to show them the v5. They didn’t ask for any other details and weren't bothered at looking at my ID even though the v5 was not in my name.

However, I got treated like a criminal a few months ago for refusing to give currys my name address, email and so on when buying an iPad.

I’ve never seen anyone in a shop get so angry when I refused. I suspect they have targets for gathering people’s info to spam with sales stuff.

KevinCamaroSS

13,521 posts

298 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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We could go the same way as some other countries, where the number plates are supplied by the Government directly.

fat80b

3,046 posts

239 months

Thursday 27th December 2018
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DIW35 said:
It's another ill thought out knee jerk reaction piece of legislation supposedly to make it harder for wrong 'uns to get their hands on number plates that they're not entitled to, all the time overlooking the fact that you can buy number plates from a number of sources that don't require all the legislated paraphernalia.
100% this - This is my go to example of legislation brought in by the government that does not actually do the job it was intended to do but does penalise ordinary folk.

Any self respecting criminal gets show plates off eBay.....meanwhile normal law abiding folk have to jump through endless hoops to use the high street / local motor factors to get a replacement for their own car.

Another example of the world going mad. The legislation is pointless and should just be deleted.