huawei to be removed from police radio ?

[Gary C]

So Huawei arent to be trusted supplying comms equipment for the police force, what about at least 50% of Openreach's DSL cabinet equipment

And I wondered why our new radio system installation at work had stalled too.

Do we think they have really put backdoors into all their equipment ?

Mind you, i think ECI is Israeli and of course they arent known for any level of undercover work

[carreauchompeur]

Unfortunately in technology terms I really do think China needs to be regarded aspas a hostile state. Their ambitions are clearly demonstrated in recent territorial grabs and we can’t be naive to the prospect of our relations being tested years down the line.

[jas xjr]

I may be mistaken but do they supply some sort of switching equipment for the net?

[skyrover]

They've already been caught at it.

No reason to think they won't try again.

[CoolHands]

Why aren’t some national security things kept in house? Seems obvious to the man on the street

[grumpy52]

Could it be a link to the goings on with the Daughter of the company boss man .

[schmalex]

CoolHands said:

Why aren’t some national security things kept in house? Seems obvious to the man on the street

££££££. or lack thereof

[Gary C]

jas xjr said:

I may be mistaken but do they supply some sort of switching equipment for the net?

Yep, as i said they supply 50% of Openreach's DSL cabinet equipment for ADSL/VDSL broadband plus some modems so they are already deeply embedded within the systm.

As to strategic systems, it would be a good ideal. We have a control system that uses bespoke software so its harder to hack, but thats only because it was done in the early 80's

[skyrover]

Gary C said:

Yep, as i said they supply 50% of Openreach's DSL cabinet equipment for ADSL/VDSL broadband plus some modems so they are already deeply embedded within the system

I always thought it was madness

[rscott]

skyrover said:

Gary C said:

Yep, as i said they supply 50% of Openreach's DSL cabinet equipment for ADSL/VDSL broadband plus some modems so they are already deeply embedded within the system

I always thought it was madness

Trouble is, there's little choice in the market.

[bitchstewie]

ash73 said:

Does it matter if the traffic is encrypted?

It doesn't matter if the traffic is encrypted if you can disrupt it so it doesn't get to its destination etc.

If you control the hardware there's all kinds of things you can do.

[rxe]

I really wouldn’t worry about spying on the domestic broadband network. 99.99% of the traffic is rubbish - cat videos and the like. If they wanted to watch this, they could watch it on YouTube. So there is a vanishingly small percentage of good stuff - either corporate or government secrets, all encrypted.

So - either this dodgy kit is sending all the data back to China, or it is doing the analysis itself. If it is sending data back to China, there would be evidence of a really big load of data heading in the direction of Beijing. If it was doing the analysis itself, then it would be red hot and sucking vast amounts of power. Neither of these things are true.

I don’t trust the Chinese any more than I trust the Americans. If anyone thinks that Intel and AMD don’t co-operate with US national security interests they are naive. I’d be much more worried about using Microsoft software than Huawei hardware for example.

Hardware disruption is possible, but it is a one time trick. You’d only be able to use it as the prelude to the end of whatever campaign you were running. So, yes, when all the Huawei kit goes off, look for incoming nukes. At that point we’ve got bigger things to be concerned about.

Edited by rxe on Wednesday 26th December 11:08

[snake_oil]

skyrover said:

They've already been caught at it.

No reason to think they won't try again.

Huawei? Link?

[bimsb6]

snake_oil said:

skyrover said:

They've already been caught at it.

No reason to think they won't try again.

Huawei? Link?

They are already excluded from the u.s and australian infrastructure, bt are removing their kit from 3g and 4g infrastructure already .

[snake_oil]

bimsb6 said:

snake_oil said:

skyrover said:

They've already been caught at it.

No reason to think they won't try again.

Huawei? Link?

They are already excluded from the u.s and australian infrastructure, bt are removing their kit from 3g and 4g infrastructure already .

Yes. Perhaps you were misunderstanding my question. I was seeking a link with proof or evidence that Huawei have 'already been caught at it'.

[surveyor]

Gary C said:

And I wondered why our new radio system installation at work had stalled too.

EE are responsible for rolling out the new ESN contract. I think ther are not too bad on schedule for upgrading their existing sites, but they also need to infill, particularly in the more rural areas. There is currently a disagreement between landlords and the operators as to what a site is worth following new legislation this time last year. For example a rural site which may have been at a market rent iof £5k last year the Operator will argue is how worth £10 a year.

As a consequence of the disagreement they are having problems rolling out new sites...

The airwave contract has been extended to .2022

[bimsb6]

snake_oil said:

bimsb6 said:

snake_oil said:

skyrover said:

They've already been caught at it.

No reason to think they won't try again.

Huawei? Link?

They are already excluded from the u.s and australian infrastructure, bt are removing their kit from 3g and 4g infrastructure already .

Yes. Perhaps you were misunderstanding my question. I was seeking a link with proof or evidence that Huawei have 'already been caught at it'.

There is no proof but an awful lot of suspicions .

[snake_oil]

bimsb6 said:

There is no proof but an awful lot of suspicions .

Which means fk all. How easy would it be to prove that the s/w or h/w is dodgy - very.

[skyrover]

snake_oil said:

bimsb6 said:

There is no proof but an awful lot of suspicions .

Which means fk all. How easy would it be to prove that the s/w or h/w is dodgy - very.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04...

It's no secret that the Chinese have been pilfering Western technology for years.

There is a very thin line between Huawei and the Chinese state

[snake_oil]

skyrover said:

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-10-04...

It's no secret that the Chinese have been pilfering Western technology for years.

There is a very thin line between Huawei and the Chinese state

Try again only next time with Huawei.