NIP but assume plate cloned
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My daughter received a NIP yesterday in the post stating she was caught on camera at 81mph in a 70 on the A1 at junction 48 at 12.06 on 30th January 2019.
Now bearing in mind she has only been driving 2 months and has black box fitted to her car which shows she was at college parked at that time and in lessons from the attendance register, also the fact the speeding incident is over 80 miles away from there, is it just a case of ringing the number on the reverse of the NIP and explaining the situation? I have gathered all the evidence yesterday to prove it wasn't her car.
I bought her a private plate for Xmas which is in total standard spacing and lettering but it's the same plate on the NIP so I'm starting to presume the car pictured is displaying a adapted private plate and it's been read wrong and noted down wrong.
Any advice appreciated as this is the first time anything like this has happened to anyone on the family.
Now bearing in mind she has only been driving 2 months and has black box fitted to her car which shows she was at college parked at that time and in lessons from the attendance register, also the fact the speeding incident is over 80 miles away from there, is it just a case of ringing the number on the reverse of the NIP and explaining the situation? I have gathered all the evidence yesterday to prove it wasn't her car.
I bought her a private plate for Xmas which is in total standard spacing and lettering but it's the same plate on the NIP so I'm starting to presume the car pictured is displaying a adapted private plate and it's been read wrong and noted down wrong.
Any advice appreciated as this is the first time anything like this has happened to anyone on the family.
Can you ring 101 and ask to be put through to the police force where the NIP was sent from? Explain what happened to the plates and how they got cloned. Criminals are using sites like newreg to copy private plates, buying plates from show plate makers who don't need a V5... I bought a registration off newreg, despite the fact I have registered it with DVLA and got the V5 to reflect that, the same registration number is still up for sale on their site 
Does the black box have tracking data which you can get from your insurers that you can send in?
Does the black box have tracking data which you can get from your insurers that you can send in?
AlexS_LDN said:
Can you ring 101 and ask to be put through to the police force where the NIP was sent from? Explain what happened to the plates and how they got cloned. Criminals are using sites like newreg to copy private plates, buying plates from show plate makers who don't need a V5... I bought a registration off newreg, despite the fact I have registered it with DVLA and got the V5 to reflect that, the same registration number is still up for sale on their site
Does the black box have tracking data which you can get from your insurers that you can send in?
The black box has all the tracking data for all her journeys. On the 30th it shows her leaving home for college and then the return journey some 5 hours later leaving college and returning home. College have her signed in to all her lessons too. Does the black box have tracking data which you can get from your insurers that you can send in?
I bought the plate off the official dvla website in November last year and we transferred it onto her car over the Xmas period.
Its fairly simple for us to prove she wasn't there and if they actually release the photos of the car caught I'm certain it won't be the same as hers!
There is a number to ring on the back of the NIP but not open till Monday.
Ajax Treesdown said:
Lemming Train said:
1. Ring number.
2. Explain situation.
3. Send proof if requested.
4. Forget about it and get on with your life.
Nice one! I thought this but just wanted to clarify! 2. Explain situation.
3. Send proof if requested.
4. Forget about it and get on with your life.
edit:typos
Edited by Lemming Train on Sunday 3rd February 09:52
I think she should do the decent thing and own up and take the points. Speed kills and just because the car was parked up 80 miles away and she was in a class room doesn't mean she wasn't the driver, or thinking about speeding, or once read about it on the internet.
The police don't make mistakes, your daughter does, she's human, the police are not. Have you any idea how many people get killed by young drivers who are sat in classrooms? Well it's a lot. Loads and loads. Thinking about it, a short prison sentence for PTCOJ should sort her out. And a lengthy ban after for good measure.
The police don't make mistakes, your daughter does, she's human, the police are not. Have you any idea how many people get killed by young drivers who are sat in classrooms? Well it's a lot. Loads and loads. Thinking about it, a short prison sentence for PTCOJ should sort her out. And a lengthy ban after for good measure.
Willy Nilly said:
I think she should do the decent thing and own up and take the points. Speed kills and just because the car was parked up 80 miles away and she was in a class room doesn't mean she wasn't the driver, or thinking about speeding, or once read about it on the internet.
The police don't make mistakes, your daughter does, she's human, the police are not. Have you any idea how many people get killed by young drivers who are sat in classrooms? Well it's a lot. Loads and loads. Thinking about it, a short prison sentence for PTCOJ should sort her out. And a lengthy ban after for good measure.
Haha This where we are heading!The police don't make mistakes, your daughter does, she's human, the police are not. Have you any idea how many people get killed by young drivers who are sat in classrooms? Well it's a lot. Loads and loads. Thinking about it, a short prison sentence for PTCOJ should sort her out. And a lengthy ban after for good measure.
Lemming Train said:
Ajax Treesdown said:
Lemming Train said:
1. Ring number.
2. Explain situation.
3. Send proof if requested.
4. Forget about it and get on with your life.
Nice one! I thought this but just wanted to clarify! 2. Explain situation.
3. Send proof if requested.
4. Forget about it and get on with your life.
Edited by Lemming Train on Sunday 3rd February 09:15
rallycross said:
Haha This where we are heading!
It's all the OPs fault. They knew that their daughter was a student and a girl but let her have a car anyway. It would have been obvious to anyone that her hormones, coupled with all the ecstasy she was almost definitely smoking at the time was an accident waiting to happen. Driving at that speed whilst instachatting on her phone could have killed us all. 
Graveworm said:
It's all the OPs fault. They knew that their daughter was a student and a girl but let her have a car anyway. It would have been obvious to anyone that her hormones, coupled with all the ecstasy she was almost definitely smoking at the time was an accident waiting to happen. Driving at that speed whilst instachatting on her phone could have killed us all.
Graveworm said:
rallycross said:
Haha This where we are heading!
It's all the OPs fault. They knew that their daughter was a student and a girl but let her have a car anyway. It would have been obvious to anyone that her hormones, coupled with all the ecstasy she was almost definitely smoking at the time was an accident waiting to happen. Driving at that speed whilst instachatting on her phone could have killed us all. Speeding, she can't have been in proper control of the vehicle if it was 80 miles away at the time while parked up . Driving under the influence, driving while using the phone. She's a danger to us all and it's a clear reflection of the OP's poor parenting skills. Put the whole family in jail, including the cat.
Willy Nilly said:
Dear god, the charge sheet gets longer.
Speeding, she can't have been in proper control of the vehicle if it was 80 miles away at the time while parked up . Driving under the influence, driving while using the phone. She's a danger to us all and it's a clear reflection of the OP's poor parenting skills. Put the whole family in jail, including the cat.
How do you know they've got a cat? Speeding, she can't have been in proper control of the vehicle if it was 80 miles away at the time while parked up . Driving under the influence, driving while using the phone. She's a danger to us all and it's a clear reflection of the OP's poor parenting skills. Put the whole family in jail, including the cat.
Is there something going on here we should know about?
NGee said:
Willy Nilly said:
Dear god, the charge sheet gets longer.
Speeding, she can't have been in proper control of the vehicle if it was 80 miles away at the time while parked up . Driving under the influence, driving while using the phone. She's a danger to us all and it's a clear reflection of the OP's poor parenting skills. Put the whole family in jail, including the cat.
How do you know they've got a cat? Speeding, she can't have been in proper control of the vehicle if it was 80 miles away at the time while parked up . Driving under the influence, driving while using the phone. She's a danger to us all and it's a clear reflection of the OP's poor parenting skills. Put the whole family in jail, including the cat.
Is there something going on here we should know about?
When BRAKE gets hold of this there will be hell to pay.
Willy Nilly said:
NGee said:
Willy Nilly said:
Dear god, the charge sheet gets longer.
Speeding, she can't have been in proper control of the vehicle if it was 80 miles away at the time while parked up . Driving under the influence, driving while using the phone. She's a danger to us all and it's a clear reflection of the OP's poor parenting skills. Put the whole family in jail, including the cat.
How do you know they've got a cat? Speeding, she can't have been in proper control of the vehicle if it was 80 miles away at the time while parked up . Driving under the influence, driving while using the phone. She's a danger to us all and it's a clear reflection of the OP's poor parenting skills. Put the whole family in jail, including the cat.
Is there something going on here we should know about?
Willy Nilly said:
When BRAKE gets hold of this there will be hell to pay.
Mary Williams's head will explode! Ajax Treesdown said:
My daughter received a NIP yesterday in the post stating she was caught on camera at 81mph in a 70 on the A1 at junction 48 at 12.06 on 30th January 2019.
Now bearing in mind she has only been driving 2 months and has black box fitted to her car which shows she was at college parked at that time and in lessons from the attendance register, also the fact the speeding incident is over 80 miles away from there, is it just a case of ringing the number on the reverse of the NIP and explaining the situation? I have gathered all the evidence yesterday to prove it wasn't her car.
I bought her a private plate for Xmas which is in total standard spacing and lettering but it's the same plate on the NIP so I'm starting to presume the car pictured is displaying a adapted private plate and it's been read wrong and noted down wrong.
Any advice appreciated as this is the first time anything like this has happened to anyone on the family.
It is likely to be a misread by the auto read system.Now bearing in mind she has only been driving 2 months and has black box fitted to her car which shows she was at college parked at that time and in lessons from the attendance register, also the fact the speeding incident is over 80 miles away from there, is it just a case of ringing the number on the reverse of the NIP and explaining the situation? I have gathered all the evidence yesterday to prove it wasn't her car.
I bought her a private plate for Xmas which is in total standard spacing and lettering but it's the same plate on the NIP so I'm starting to presume the car pictured is displaying a adapted private plate and it's been read wrong and noted down wrong.
Any advice appreciated as this is the first time anything like this has happened to anyone on the family.
Your daughter needs to call and give the nip number, then explain not there.
The ticket office will call up the image and look to see if it is a misread. It probably is.
Willy Nilly said:
I think she should do the decent thing and own up and take the points. Speed kills and just because the car was parked up 80 miles away and she was in a class room doesn't mean she wasn't the driver, or thinking about speeding, or once read about it on the internet.
The police don't make mistakes, your daughter does, she's human, the police are not. Have you any idea how many people get killed by young drivers who are sat in classrooms? Well it's a lot. Loads and loads. Thinking about it, a short prison sentence for PTCOJ should sort her out. And a lengthy ban after for good measure.
I read on the internet that speed is a factor in 100% of road accidents, so if your daughter drove to college that morning at a speed, or home again later at another speed, then she is an accident waiting to happen, and should be disqualified for her own good.The police don't make mistakes, your daughter does, she's human, the police are not. Have you any idea how many people get killed by young drivers who are sat in classrooms? Well it's a lot. Loads and loads. Thinking about it, a short prison sentence for PTCOJ should sort her out. And a lengthy ban after for good measure.
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