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Sister just got a NIP for 54 in a 40. Passed her test two months ago. £100 and 3 points, no offer of a course.
Am i right in thinking that:
Am i right in thinking that:
- 2mph more and she may have got 6 points and lost her licence
- she wasn't offered a course as too fast, can't ask to do it to avoid points, and therefore will lose her licence if snapped again in next 2 years
- she needs to tell her insurance immediately and given she is a new driver her premium is likely to rocket
Integroo said:
Sister just got a NIP for 54 in a 40. Passed her test two months ago. £100 and 3 points, no offer of a course.
Am i right in thinking that:
You've obviously read something inaccurate on the internet. Probably one of the numerous misleading publications from April 2017.Am i right in thinking that:
- 2mph more and she may have got 6 points and lost her licence
- she wasn't offered a course as too fast, can't ask to do it to avoid points, and therefore will lose her licence if snapped again in next 2 years
- she needs to tell her insurance immediately and given she is a new driver her premium is likely to rocket
54/40 is usually too fast for a course but within the threshold for a fixed penalty. The same thing applies to 56/40. If you didn't comply with the fixed penalty conditions and court proceedings were commenced then 56/40 would mean a 3-6 points or a ban (usually 4 points at that speed).
She may be given the opportunity to attend another course (e.g. motorway course or NSAC 20). It's not entirely accurate that only one course can be completed every three years.
If she accrues 6 or more penalty points within the first 2 years of passing her test (where offence date is the relevant date) then her licence will be revoked by DVLA.
Insurance depends on her policy. Some require immediate notification. Some require the information at renewal. Check the policy and if in any doubt then declare immediately.
I wonder is she was doing 54.0001 mph or 54.99999 mph , that .0001 mph could make all the difference 
agtlaw said:
You've obviously read something inaccurate on the internet. Probably one of the numerous misleading publications from April 2017.
54/40 is usually too fast for a course but within the threshold for a fixed penalty. The same thing applies to 56/40. If you didn't comply with the fixed penalty conditions and court proceedings were commenced then 56/40 would mean a 3-6 points or a ban (usually 4 points at that speed).
She may be given the opportunity to attend another course (e.g. motorway course or NSAC 20). It's not entirely accurate that only one course can be completed every three years.
If she accrues 6 or more penalty points within the first 2 years of passing her test (where offence date is the relevant date) then her licence will be revoked by DVLA.
Insurance depends on her policy. Some require immediate notification. Some require the information at renewal. Check the policy and if in any doubt then declare immediately.
Thanks. Just to be clear, she will get a fixed penalty AND 3 points? That's what the letter suggests. No course has been offered or mentioned so there is no way she can ask to do a course, correct?54/40 is usually too fast for a course but within the threshold for a fixed penalty. The same thing applies to 56/40. If you didn't comply with the fixed penalty conditions and court proceedings were commenced then 56/40 would mean a 3-6 points or a ban (usually 4 points at that speed).
She may be given the opportunity to attend another course (e.g. motorway course or NSAC 20). It's not entirely accurate that only one course can be completed every three years.
If she accrues 6 or more penalty points within the first 2 years of passing her test (where offence date is the relevant date) then her licence will be revoked by DVLA.
Insurance depends on her policy. Some require immediate notification. Some require the information at renewal. Check the policy and if in any doubt then declare immediately.
n.b. she is an idiot and no idea how she managed to get snapped doing 54 in a 40 so soon after her test. I have managed to never get a ticket in the 6 years or so I have been driving, much quicker cars than she has!
giantdefy said:
agtlaw said:
giantdefy said:
In what way is it out of date? I believe the data to be correct as used in England and Wales.
You believe wrong.agtlaw gives out lots of good info - how do you contribute with your demands?
Edited by superlightr on Friday 15th February 12:18
superlightr said:
giantdefy said:
agtlaw said:
giantdefy said:
In what way is it out of date? I believe the data to be correct as used in England and Wales.
You believe wrong.agtlaw gives out lots of good info - how do you contribute with your demands?
He has replied to my query with a useful up dated chart which would have been more useful in the original reply.
giantdefy said:
I agree that agtlaw does good stuff but he is inclined to the 'no you're wrong' type answers rather than 'no you are wrong it is now like this' type of answer which would be more useful.
He has replied to my query with a useful up dated chart which would have been more useful in the original reply.
I get the impression that he has a slight patience issue with providing information that can be found on the internet in 30 seconds.He has replied to my query with a useful up dated chart which would have been more useful in the original reply.
Integroo said:
n.b. she is an idiot and no idea how she managed to get snapped doing 54 in a 40 so soon after her test. I have managed to never get a ticket in the 6 years or so I have been driving, much quicker cars than she has!
You can actually drive quick cars at the speed limit if you want to 
Integroo said:
Sister just got a NIP for 54 in a 40. Passed her test two months ago. £100 and 3 points, no offer of a course.
Am i right in thinking that:
Your second point, 2 years and 10 months.Am i right in thinking that:
- 2mph more and she may have got 6 points and lost her licence
- she wasn't offered a course as too fast, can't ask to do it to avoid points, and therefore will lose her licence if snapped again in next 2 years
- she needs to tell her insurance immediately and given she is a new driver her premium is likely to rocket
Your third point, no , she doesn't need to disclose this until next renewal. Loads of people will now come on and tell you that's wrong and it depends on her policy etc. etc, but they are all wrong. She can disclose it now if she wants (although she is under no obligation to do so) and they cannot charge her extra premium until next renewal, but they can charge a huge admin fee to note it, if that's in their Tc & Cs. So just wait until next renewal.
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