What to do about "dumped" vehicles on my street?
What to do about "dumped" vehicles on my street?
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Warcloud36

Original Poster:

67 posts

102 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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What can I do about uninsured vehicles with no mot on my street?

My street is full of cars that seem to be "dumped" some have no tax and the council will deal with them I guess.

Many of them are not showing on the insurance data base and are showing to not have a MOT via the GOV website.
These cars don't move for 6 months to a year, deflated tyres, body panels hanging off etc

It also says it is a crime for a car to be parked in a public place without insurance or MOT, yet the police say they will only deal with the vehicles if they are driving and A.N.P.R plate recognition computers pick them up.

These vehicles are taking over the street, are illegal yet I am unable to do anything about it?

trickywoo

14,173 posts

259 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Your local council website will have a link to report abandoned vehicles.

I reported one and they stickered it up for removal the week after. It did then take them a month to actually take it away after that though.

Marlin45

1,334 posts

193 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Report to the DVLA/VOSA. Police will do nothing as it is no longer in their remit unless they are being driven.

https://www.gov.uk/report-untaxed-vehicle

Ransoman

884 posts

119 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Cut the cats off and weigh them in at a scrap metal place...

They are abandoned after all.

Eddieslofart

1,328 posts

112 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Move.

Timbuktu

1,955 posts

184 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Burn them.

br d

9,072 posts

255 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Take the plates off, that'll attract the attention of the authorities.

Dave.

7,895 posts

282 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Strip them and sell the parts on Gumtree, then scrap the rest....

Then move....

Alex Z

2,070 posts

105 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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If they were causing an obstruction, for example if the handbrake failed and they rolled into the road, they'd get moved pretty quickly.

Mr Tidy

31,492 posts

156 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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If it's a public road you can report them to DVLA who ought to remove it.

But that won't work on private property or roads.

We've got an area of allocated parking spaces next to my house, and there has been an old banger sat there for over a year without moving. No recent MOT or tax, and over the winter mould started growing on the seats and steering wheel! I reported it to the local council. They came and put a sticker on it on 19 February, but it's still there. banghead

Looks like time to remind them!

DrDeAtH

3,700 posts

261 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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Give them to the local fire station...

Warcloud36

Original Poster:

67 posts

102 months

Monday 8th April 2019
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I went on the council website so will see.

I have been using fixmystreet but it didn't work.

Seems like a pain in the backside, no tax and they tow it away but no insurance or mot and it can sit there for months.

mikeveal

5,118 posts

279 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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Sigh.
I used to live in an area where this was prevalent. A local garage dumped a dozen cars at a time on the road and used them for spares.

Your council are obliged to remove abandoned vehicles under the Clean Neighbourhoods act 2005.

https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2005/16/part/...

The problem is that there is no legal definition of an abandoned vehicle. The council must decide what constitutes abandonment based on the governments guidelines. There are a set of criteria that the council may consider. MOT and insurance aren't on the list.

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/abandoned-vehicles-cou...

Somewhere there's a pdf that better explains this. I think it was DEFRA issued. It stated that the more of these factors are exhibited, the more likely the vehicle was abandoned. It didn't say that one factor alone was not sufficient to consider the vehicle was abandoned, but neither did it state that this was insufficient.

If the Council do remove and destroy vehicle, the owner could pursue them through the courts for recompense. Given that removing abandoned vehicle costs the Council AND they could then make themselves liable to the owner for the value of that vehicle, some Councils (cough, Southampton, cough) appear reluctant to do anything other than try to shirk their legal obligation.

Southampton, for example won't touch a vehicle until the VED is at least a month overdue.

Note that a missing numberplate is a factor that is considered indicative of abandonment. But if both went missing, the Council would no doubt try to claim that they can't trace the owner and check road tax.

Your best route is to report the vehicles to your council. If the vehicle has flat tyres, a missing numberplate, is full of rubbish etc. make sure your report includes this information. Keep records and if you're met with inaction from the Council, go and see a Councillor. Show them the cars and get them to apply pressure.

Dangerous vehicles (broken glass, unlocked, unlocked with sharps inside, burnt out) are a different category and must be moved in, I think, 48 hours.

GipsyHillClimber

129 posts

123 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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Similar to those who've posted above I had similar last year. A barried up Astra appeared on our road annoyingly close to the entrance to the car park to our flat, not enough to actually obstruct but did make visibility a bit awkward given it's on a narrow road with cars parked both sides.

After about two months when it hadn't moved and the tyres were starting to go flat, I checked the VED which had 5 months left and spoke to Southwark council who said they would only remove it once it had expired. In fairness to them they came by on the exact day It had expired and removed it (which was amusing to see/hear as the brakes had all seized so they pulled it away leaving 11s on the road and could hear it squealing away for the next few minutes).

The only bit I did find weird was that as there is permit parking on our road it had a parking ticket at least once a week which was always removed from the windscreen after a few days. If they were going unpaid I'm not sure if that should have allowed the council to tow it away earlier (I'm guessing they were unpaid as who would abandon a car worth c£500 to then pay the parking fines?).

We also had the gas lines redone on our road during the time it was there and even though they suspended parking (exactly where this car was parked) it couldn't be moved according to the workers and they had to dig around the car which I imagine cost a fair bit more money in time and materials.

Tl;dr - Report it and it'll go once the VED expires, nothing else seems to make them take it in my experience.

AllyBassman

779 posts

141 months

Tuesday 9th April 2019
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mikeveal said:
Dangerous vehicles (broken glass, unlocked, unlocked with sharps inside, burnt out) are a different category and must be moved in, I think, 48 hours.
There we are OP..... :-)