Pan european 62mph speed limit
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http://driving.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,12389-1610994,00.html
[quote=timesonline]Europe-wide 62mph limit mooted
The European Union’s energy commissioner has called for a 100kph — 62mph — speed limit to be adopted throughout Europe. Andris Piebalgs said roads in all 25 member states should be posted with a uniform limit to cut accidents and save fuel. His suggestion follows a recommendation by the International Energy Association in Paris and is seen as a quick way to cut energy consumption in response to depleted oil reserves.
“If in Germany cars are speeding at 200kph (124mph) they are using too much petrol,” said Piebalgs. He was speaking at a meeting in Germany, where motorists enjoy the only speed-limit-free roads in the EU.
A comment on the website of Der Spiegel, the German news magazine, said: “With those speed limits we would be castrated.”
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Piebalgs’s proposal came as the European economic and social committee, a body that advises the European commission on drawing up new legislation, launched an initiative to create a common European highway code. Its aim is to remove the wide variations in road regulations of member states.
The committee said that in Portugal it is illegal to drive with daytime lights while in northern and eastern Europe lights cannot be switched off. Critics point out the contrasting weather conditions in Scandinavia and Portugal.
The committee wants a commission white paper, with legislation to follow.[/quote]
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[quote=timesonline]Europe-wide 62mph limit mooted
The European Union’s energy commissioner has called for a 100kph — 62mph — speed limit to be adopted throughout Europe. Andris Piebalgs said roads in all 25 member states should be posted with a uniform limit to cut accidents and save fuel. His suggestion follows a recommendation by the International Energy Association in Paris and is seen as a quick way to cut energy consumption in response to depleted oil reserves.
“If in Germany cars are speeding at 200kph (124mph) they are using too much petrol,” said Piebalgs. He was speaking at a meeting in Germany, where motorists enjoy the only speed-limit-free roads in the EU.
A comment on the website of Der Spiegel, the German news magazine, said: “With those speed limits we would be castrated.”
Times Online logo
More coverage on speeding and safety
Piebalgs’s proposal came as the European economic and social committee, a body that advises the European commission on drawing up new legislation, launched an initiative to create a common European highway code. Its aim is to remove the wide variations in road regulations of member states.
The committee said that in Portugal it is illegal to drive with daytime lights while in northern and eastern Europe lights cannot be switched off. Critics point out the contrasting weather conditions in Scandinavia and Portugal.
The committee wants a commission white paper, with legislation to follow.[/quote]
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What a complete crock
More ill thought out knee jerk rubbish by some Euro-tosser who nobody voted for. WHY must everything be legislated to within an inch of its existence?
I will continue to drive at a speed that I see as being appropriate for the conditions. I think I know better than Monsieur Le Merde-tete who has probably never even driven a British road
. When will they be turning down the wick on fossil fuel burning power stations, and reducing the speed limit for trains, ships and planes as well, so they are less polluting?
More ill thought out knee jerk rubbish by some Euro-tosser who nobody voted for. WHY must everything be legislated to within an inch of its existence?
I will continue to drive at a speed that I see as being appropriate for the conditions. I think I know better than Monsieur Le Merde-tete who has probably never even driven a British road
. When will they be turning down the wick on fossil fuel burning power stations, and reducing the speed limit for trains, ships and planes as well, so they are less polluting?parrot of doom said:The EU gives not one a small pile of poo for productivity ... look at the output for EU countries other than UK; think of the limit to working hours; etc.
Nothing to discuss, reducing the speed limit = lower productivity = economy suffers = won't happen.
nonegreen said:Most of them are failed politicians and liars (I know that's tortology
Why does slime like this tosser have a voice? Do they get them from "rent a w*nker"?
) from their home countries - people such as Kinnock, Mandleson and Barroso (EC President). manitee said:I think you'll find that President BLiar has other views about who rules his subjects and what he can do with them and the country.
not Legal here as our Queen promised to "Rule" us (Her subjects) according to "OUR" Laws and Customs NOT (theirs)in Her Coronation Oath of 1952, end of story!
os has she abdicated or commited Treason without my knowledge?
manitee
Streaky
nonegreen said:
Why does slime like this tosser have a voice? Do they get them from "rent a w*nker"?
Because you keep voting for a government that continues to give the power to set laws in the UK to unelected unaccountable prats like him.
As Blair would say "the people have spoken, I have a mandate" ... to feck this country up beyond recongition
streaky said:
parrot of doom said:
Nothing to discuss, reducing the speed limit = lower productivity = economy suffers = won't happen.
The EU gives not one a small pile of poo for productivity ... look at the output for EU countries other than UK; think of the limit to working hours; etc.
With the greatest of respect, I fail to see how working the longest hours in Europe benefits our economy. Perhaps working fewer hours, having more time to enjoy life, spending more time with the family, perhaps these are good things?
parrot of doom said:
streaky said:
parrot of doom said:
Nothing to discuss, reducing the speed limit = lower productivity = economy suffers = won't happen.
The EU gives not one a small pile of poo for productivity ... look at the output for EU countries other than UK; think of the limit to working hours; etc.
With the greatest of respect, I fail to see how working the longest hours in Europe benefits our economy. Perhaps working fewer hours, having more time to enjoy life, spending more time with the family, perhaps these are good things?
Not sure of your point here. Perhaps they are good things for many people, but what has that got to do with the economy?
s2art said:
Not sure of your point here. Perhaps they are good things for many people, but what has that got to do with the economy?
Well, do you think:
a) You'd get more work done if you were tired and had a crappy personal life
b) You'd get more work done if you were rested and happy?
I know its a gross simplification, but there has to be a grain of truth in it. After all, why are we working, if not to enjoy life? Why let work rule your life?
parrot of doom said:
s2art said:
Not sure of your point here. Perhaps they are good things for many people, but what has that got to do with the economy?
Well, do you think:
a) You'd get more work done if you were tired and had a crappy personal life
b) You'd get more work done if you were rested and happy?
I know its a gross simplification, but there has to be a grain of truth in it. After all, why are we working, if not to enjoy life? Why let work rule your life?
OK, I see the point you are making but I tend to disagree. The are probably some groups who are forced to work terrible hours (junior docs?)but just how many people are in this category?
I think most people work extra hours for extra money. For reasons that they find justifiable. Some people enjoy their work to the extent they really do want to work the extra hours.
The alternative is to try the Froggy route. Not working too well there is it? It is all very well having extra leisure time, but not great if you are too poor to do much with it.
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ck right off! Ill travel at a speed I determine to be correct for conditions and optimal control, not this fat unelected F