Must be dead?
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hertsbiker

Original Poster:

6,443 posts

301 months

Sunday 22nd May 2005
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A bit of a laugh - if every 1mph over the limit is 5% greater risk of an accident, if you go over 20mph over the limit it means a 100% likelyhood of a crash? so that copper doing 159 must surely be dead?? proves the nonsense spouted by Break/T2000bc* is just that..


* names changed to protect the morons.

IOLAIRE

1,293 posts

268 months

Sunday 22nd May 2005
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hertsbiker said:
A bit of a laugh - if every 1mph over the limit is 5% greater risk of an accident, if you go over 20mph over the limit it means a 100% likelyhood of a crash? so that copper doing 159 must surely be dead?? proves the nonsense spouted by Break/T2000bc* is just that..


* names changed to protect the morons.


Well that makes me a tenth generation zombi!!!

havoc

33,412 posts

265 months

Sunday 22nd May 2005
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I think I died about 20 times today around those B-roads!

parrot of doom

23,075 posts

264 months

Sunday 22nd May 2005
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hertsbiker said:
A bit of a laugh - if every 1mph over the limit is 5% greater risk of an accident, if you go over 20mph over the limit it means a 100% likelyhood of a crash? so that copper doing 159 must surely be dead?? proves the nonsense spouted by Break/T2000bc* is just that..


* names changed to protect the morons.


Erm, I think you're guilty of using the same mathematics as the scamera partnerships. 100% increased risk of an accident doesn't mean you die - it simply means you're twice as likely to have an accident.

Although I don't actually agree with their original claims anyway.

GreenV8S

31,021 posts

314 months

Sunday 22nd May 2005
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The 1 mph/5% thing originated with an old study that took small samples from completely different environments and showed this correlation between speed and accident rates. Scientifically, it was nonesense because they didn't address the fact that the samples were from different countries taken years apart.

I think the same is true of the 'speed causes one third of deaths' myth, which originated from some highly questionable original analysis and has been repeated so often since that it is starting to be taken as 'known' fact.

autismuk

1,529 posts

270 months

Sunday 22nd May 2005
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It's wrong anyway. What it means is 5% of the current level more likely (or less likely) rather than a fixed 5%.

So the "step" changes as the distance to the target changes.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

269 months

Sunday 22nd May 2005
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GreenV8S said:
The 1 mph/5% thing originated with an old study that took small samples from completely different environments and showed this correlation between speed and accident rates. Scientifically, it was nonesense because they didn't address the fact that the samples were from different countries taken years apart.

I think the same is true of the 'speed causes one third of deaths' myth, which originated from some highly questionable original analysis and has been repeated so often since that it is starting to be taken as 'known' fact.


That comes from TRL 323 IIRC. Been disproved so many times it's untrue.