Speed Camera in company car park
Speed Camera in company car park
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sattyb

Original Poster:

112 posts

142 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Hi,
The company I work for is installing speed cameras in the employee car parks. These car parks are private property owned by the company and only used by staff. My question is around the legality of the speeding ticket if someone is caught speeding?
Could this be challenged?
Thanks in advance.

exelero

2,082 posts

118 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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The company I work for got 20mph speed limit on site which is private but there is a bus service to it therefore is classed as a public highway. Installing speed cameras in the car park seem odd to me given that the general car park speed limit is 5mph?

Graveworm

9,226 posts

100 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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sattyb said:
Hi,
The company I work for is installing speed cameras in the employee car parks. These car parks are private property owned by the company and only used by staff. My question is around the legality of the speeding ticket if someone is caught speeding?
Could this be challenged?
Thanks in advance.
I don't think anyone will get a speeding ticket as most people think of them. An employer can set reasonable standards and rules breach of them can lead to misconduct proceedings. This may be a tool to enforce this, some private premises use speed guns etc.

OldGermanHeaps

5,147 posts

207 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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they can do it, get caught speeding at grangemouth and you can get kicked off site.

Drumroll

4,521 posts

149 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Had speed cameras on several sites I worked on. Usual thing for contractors is you get banned from site.

Basically it is their property, their rules.

Obviously it won't affect your licence.

Vaud

59,511 posts

184 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Breach would be related to your employment contract rather than any points, etc

citizensm1th

8,371 posts

166 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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last day shenanigans could be fun

"hey burt how fast do you think you can go on your retirement day?"

A Winner Is You

26,080 posts

256 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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How big is your car park that it needs speed cameras!?

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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citizensm1th said:
last day shenanigans could be fun

"hey burt how fast do you think you can go on your retirement day?"
And donuts! I like this attitude, stick it to them!

Pit Pony

11,316 posts

150 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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I once hit 60 in a 15 on a long straight empty boring road inside the wire fence at an MOD facility. fk me, whose going to drive 3/4 of a mile at 15 mph when it's 6 am and nobodies about. A sign did flash up with my speed.

I'm told occasionally the management would ban offenders from driving on site.

I also had a jackass get out of his car to chastise me for using my phone...Which was against Health and safety rules on an aerospace site.

In.my defence, the queue to get out of the gate hadn't moved for 5 minutes, I had my handbrake on, and was.out of gear and I was phoning my wife to say my 2 hour commute was looking like 4 as the M6 was closed according to.the traffic bulletin.
I did a risk assessment and decided that the likelihood of a fatal crash or points on my.licence (as not on the pubic highway) were both zero.
I still can't believe I was so.polite to the tt when he started hammering on my window.

Chainsaw Rebuild

2,137 posts

131 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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A speed camera in the work car park? That seems rather oppressive to me.

sattyb

Original Poster:

112 posts

142 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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A Winner Is You said:
How big is your car park that it needs speed cameras!?
The car park has approximately 800 spaces and a staff shuttle bus operates to pick up and drop off employees. So it is very large.

ElectricPics

761 posts

110 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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ICI Wilton had security using radar speed guns 25 years ago. Booted off site if captured.

Jazoli

9,655 posts

279 months

Wednesday 1st May 2019
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Plenty of sites with cameras and other stuff, their site, their rules.

donkmeister

12,905 posts

129 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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I've known people getting banned from driving on MOD and aerospace sites for speeding... They ended up with long walks to the office or bumming lifts.
If you are used to normal business parks and industrial estates it seems alien but bear in mind these are often on or parallel to the same tarmac that Vmax-style events use. So plenty of speed is achievable.
Not necessarily unsafe, but "their gaff" rules apply.

donkmeister

12,905 posts

129 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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sattyb said:
Hi,
The company I work for is installing speed cameras in the employee car parks. These car parks are private property owned by the company and only used by staff. My question is around the legality of the speeding ticket if someone is caught speeding?
Could this be challenged?
Thanks in advance.
I'd say the cameras are a good idea in this situation... A work mate had an old Mini Cooper that he liked to blat between the speedbumps on a site road, he got done for speeding on the basis of the opinion of a guard even though he was doing 19 in a 20. Noise made it sound fast. They installed cameras, he did the exact same thing and he never had an issue but many in normal quiet cars who smashed through the speed bumps started to find themselves receiving tickets.

ETA not cameras, radar speed signs that the guards would refer to... It's late!

CooperS

4,580 posts

248 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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The only time I've seen it enforced was whilst on MoD establishments.... Issue with this was if caught you'd have a significant walk every day unlike most office based carparks.

My current place will over the tannoy scream we think you're breaking the 5mph limit Mr.........

Black_S3

2,814 posts

217 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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One office I worked in it was an automated email warning, then a phone call from Facilities, then a meeting with HR telling you your parking privileges were being removed for varying lengths of time. It actually worked pretty well and I only heard of one person who got more than a 1 day parking ban but that clown was doing more than 20mph over in the snow and sideways if rumours are believed.

Bumblebee7

1,533 posts

104 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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Black_S3 said:
One office I worked in it was an automated email warning, then a phone call from Facilities, then a meeting with HR telling you your parking privileges were being removed for varying lengths of time. It actually worked pretty well and I only heard of one person who got more than a 1 day parking ban but that clown was doing more than 20mph over in the snow and sideways if rumours are believed.
Legend rofl

Zetec-S

6,895 posts

122 months

Thursday 2nd May 2019
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donkmeister said:
I've known people getting banned from driving on MOD and aerospace sites for speeding... They ended up with long walks to the office or bumming lifts.
If you are used to normal business parks and industrial estates it seems alien but bear in mind these are often on or parallel to the same tarmac that Vmax-style events use. So plenty of speed is achievable.
Not necessarily unsafe, but "their gaff" rules apply.
Yep, pretty much this. Bear in mind any aerospace site will be especially hot on H&S, so if it's a quiet day in the dept one of the H&S bods will need something to stick their noses in to pass the time.