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worsy

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6,601 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Comes to us all I suppose. 05:45 in the morning doing 89 on a dual carriageway (NSL), LTI caught by PC. I think i'm 2mph over the threshold for a SAC, am I right?

North Wales if that makes a difference.

CanAm

13,999 posts

301 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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North Wales? Botany Bay for you my friend.

PorkInsider

6,590 posts

170 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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86mph is usually the upper limit for an SAC.

agtlaw

7,403 posts

235 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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£100 fixed penalty with 3 points.

poo at Paul's

14,611 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Cant believe no one has mentioned that you must have been "doing 95+" on the speedo for that......laugh

worsy

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6,601 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Thanks AGT, Pork, it is what i thought.

@poo - actually my speed was 88 on the head up when i clocked him in my rear view hidden up on the slip. I wasn't on cruise so near as dammit bang on.

Smokehead

7,703 posts

257 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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worsy said:
Thanks AGT, Pork, it is what i thought.

@poo - actually my speed was 88 on the head up when i clocked him in my rear view hidden up on the slip. I wasn't on cruise so near as dammit bang on.
You'd have been all right in a DeLorean

poo at Paul's

14,611 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Smokehead said:
worsy said:
Thanks AGT, Pork, it is what i thought.

@poo - actually my speed was 88 on the head up when i clocked him in my rear view hidden up on the slip. I wasn't on cruise so near as dammit bang on.
You'd have been all right in a DeLorean
laugh

Pica-Pica

16,592 posts

113 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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worsy said:
Comes to us all I suppose. 05:45 in the morning doing 89 on a dual carriageway (NSL), LTI caught by PC. I think i'm 2mph over the threshold for a SAC, am I right?

North Wales if that makes a difference.
A55, I guess. It is very well policed at the moment, temporary signs for average speed cameras in the westerly direction.

A short story. I was returning from Liverpool on the A55, on Monday, I saw blue lights behind, checked back to 70mph on cruise, police car flew past. A few miles up the road, I passed said police car tailing a black saloon, i cruised past at 70mph. As soon as I passed, the sirens went on and the black saloon was pulled over. A few miles later, I stopped for fuel, and mentioned this to the cashier. Another guy in the shop then said, ‘black Audi’, ‘yes, a dirty black Audi’. ‘He pulled in front of me and slammed his brakes on, so I phoned the police, nice to see it has some results’. Not sure if that was a reaction to his call...but.

WCZ

11,512 posts

223 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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worsy said:
Comes to us all I suppose. 05:45 in the morning doing 89 on a dual carriageway (NSL), LTI caught by PC. I think i'm 2mph over the threshold for a SAC, am I right?

North Wales if that makes a difference.
feel for you, it's so annoying especially when the conditions mean you couldn't have been any safer.

Lindun

1,965 posts

91 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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WCZ said:
worsy said:
Comes to us all I suppose. 05:45 in the morning doing 89 on a dual carriageway (NSL), LTI caught by PC. I think i'm 2mph over the threshold for a SAC, am I right?

North Wales if that makes a difference.
feel for you, it's so annoying especially when the conditions mean you couldn't have been any safer.
But it’s not about conditions it’s it? We all know the rules and we all take the chance hoping we won’t get caught. Probably 99999/100000 wer’reright as well.

worsy

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6,601 posts

204 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Pica-Pica said:
worsy said:
Comes to us all I suppose. 05:45 in the morning doing 89 on a dual carriageway (NSL), LTI caught by PC. I think i'm 2mph over the threshold for a SAC, am I right?

North Wales if that makes a difference.
A55, I guess. It is very well policed at the moment, temporary signs for average speed cameras in the westerly direction.

A short story. I was returning from Liverpool on the A55, on Monday, I saw blue lights behind, checked back to 70mph on cruise, police car flew past. A few miles up the road, I passed said police car tailing a black saloon, i cruised past at 70mph. As soon as I passed, the sirens went on and the black saloon was pulled over. A few miles later, I stopped for fuel, and mentioned this to the cashier. Another guy in the shop then said, ‘black Audi’, ‘yes, a dirty black Audi’. ‘He pulled in front of me and slammed his brakes on, so I phoned the police, nice to see it has some results’. Not sure if that was a reaction to his call...but.
No the A483 at Ruabon. He was sat on the Johnstown slip as I went towards Wrexham.

Sheepshanks

41,033 posts

148 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Lindun said:
But it’s not about conditions it’s it? We all know the rules and we all take the chance hoping we won’t get caught. Probably 99999/100000 wer’reright as well.
Those odds aren't valid for North Wales.

Lindun

1,965 posts

91 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Sheepshanks said:
Those odds aren't valid for North Wales.
I must have driven the run to Anglesey from Chester dozens of times in a van going to the race circuit and abet bee caught yet. Even the new cameras don’t mind me doing 80ish in what’s a 60 limit for me.

Not quite the same as the big odds I’ve quoted before but my experience is 0/150ish so even better odds so far.

WCZ

11,512 posts

223 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Lindun said:
But it’s not about conditions it’s it? We all know the rules and we all take the chance hoping we won’t get caught. Probably 99999/100000 wer’reright as well.
it's more frustrating getting caught when the conditions are perfect and the speed is reasonable though.

if you're doing 160+ then fair enough, you've been a bad boy
or doing 70 in a 30 and overtaking dangerously, also naughty

in these circumstances most won't complain about getting caught / getting a load of points etc

Lindun

1,965 posts

91 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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WCZ said:
it's more frustrating getting caught when the conditions are perfect and the speed is reasonable though.

if you're doing 160+ then fair enough, you've been a bad boy
or doing 70 in a 30 and overtaking dangerously, also naughty

in these circumstances most won't complain about getting caught / getting a load of points etc
But my point is that it doesn’t say anywhere in the speed limit rules that it’s all dependant on conditions. I’m just saying that we all know what the limit is and that the limit is just that irrespective of what we’d like it to be.

Even if 160 was the cut off someone would be on here complaining that they were only 1mph over at 161. Whatever the cut off is we all drive to it and then chance our arm a little more. Getting 3 points every now or then is just one of those things. I speed pretty much everywhere all the time and if it means I get caught once every few thousand trips then the odds are massively in my favour.

Sheepshanks

41,033 posts

148 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Lindun said:
I must have driven the run to Anglesey from Chester dozens of times in a van going to the race circuit and abet bee caught yet. Even the new cameras don’t mind me doing 80ish in what’s a 60 limit for me.

Not quite the same as the big odds I’ve quoted before but my experience is 0/150ish so even better odds so far.
I'd say you've been staggeringly lucky, especially in a van. Cheshire (where I live) Police are very hot on restricted speed vehicles, and the cameras on the A556 (from Northwich to the M6) can tell the difference and they catch a lot of people who think because it's got 4 lanes it's a dual carriageway. I'd be amazed if N Wales doesn't have similar technology.

I got my first ticket just breezing along at the A55 at 70. Unfortunately the limit on the approach to Colwyn Bay is 50. Got stopped by an unmarked car. I saw him and slowed down but he was having none of it and suggested we could go to court instead.

CanAm

13,999 posts

301 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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On my SAC, about 75% didn't know what constitutes a dual carriageway.

86DA

231 posts

156 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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i got 3 points, cant remember the fine for 87 on the M5.

Pica-Pica

16,592 posts

113 months

Thursday 20th June 2019
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Sheepshanks said:
I'd say you've been staggeringly lucky, especially in a van. Cheshire (where I live) Police are very hot on restricted speed vehicles, and the cameras on the A556 (from Northwich to the M6) can tell the difference and they catch a lot of people who think because it's got 4 lanes it's a dual carriageway. I'd be amazed if N Wales doesn't have similar technology.

I got my first ticket just breezing along at the A55 at 70. Unfortunately the limit on the approach to Colwyn Bay is 50. Got stopped by an unmarked car. I saw him and slowed down but he was having none of it and suggested we could go to court instead.
I have seen several cars pulled over in that 50mph stretch, usually an unmarked car.