Mopeds on the pavement
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ashleyman

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7,284 posts

128 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Sanity check required - Am I being too sensitive or is this a genuine issue?

Road near me has temporary 4 way traffic lights for gas works. Moped riders have decided it's a good idea to use a the park as a cut through so they drive into the car park on one side, bump the kerb, drive through the park on the pavement, then exit through the car park on the other side therefore cutting out the wait at the 4 way lights. Genius but dangerous as it's next to a kiddies playground.

There's no CCTV apart from mine. It happens all day with Uber, Deliveroo & JustEat drivers going back and forth.

Worth reporting? Petty? Will anything be done?

Here's my rough map!
Black = main roads
Green = park
Red Dots = traffic lights
Blue line = moped path
Grey = car park layout



Edited by ashleyman on Monday 1st July 15:32

motco

17,619 posts

275 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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RazerSauber

2,901 posts

89 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Definitely report it. And keep reporting it. If it's going past a playground then it won't be long before an absent minded child wanders into the path of a scooter and gets covered in scalding Korma. If the council wanted there to be a bypass to these lights, they'd build one.

I can't actually see the diagram mind you (work computer) but I'd report it personally.

eybic

9,212 posts

203 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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motco said:
Its a great idea to send a moped with rapidly deflating tyres into a play area rolleyes

PAULJ5555

3,554 posts

205 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Report it and you will probably have to report it a few times. Or do what they do to car drivers and film them doing it and report to police.





NGee

2,952 posts

193 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Report that they are doing 31MPH through the park, the "safety parknership" will be round there in a flash!!

kiethton

14,647 posts

209 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Regular problem around my area too - I'm a motorbike/pushbike commuter into London and the L-plated delivery riders are a law unto themselves!

Pavements, red lights, forcing oncoming cars out the way is all in an evenings work!

If there was one law I could bring in tomorrow it would be to forbid the use of L-plates for commercial purposes....

Pica-Pica

16,592 posts

113 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Report to your Parish Council and local allocated Police Officer. Request it as an agenda item on next Council Meeting. When I was a Parish Councillor this is the thing councils should act on. Our local Police Officer, and County Councillor would attend - these can ad weight to these. Maybe the cycle-limiting bars can help. See site and document attached.

https://www.sustrans.org.uk/sites/default/files/fi...

ElectricPics

761 posts

110 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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kiethton said:
Regular problem around my area too - I'm a motorbike/pushbike commuter into London and the L-plated delivery riders are a law unto themselves!

Pavements, red lights, forcing oncoming cars out the way is all in an evenings work!

If there was one law I could bring in tomorrow it would be to forbid the use of L-plates for commercial purposes....
You don't need to bring in a law - there's not a chance that a driver on L plates has hire & reward insurance. In fact, it'll be unusual to find any delivery drivers with it.

kiethton

14,647 posts

209 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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ElectricPics said:
kiethton said:
Regular problem around my area too - I'm a motorbike/pushbike commuter into London and the L-plated delivery riders are a law unto themselves!

Pavements, red lights, forcing oncoming cars out the way is all in an evenings work!

If there was one law I could bring in tomorrow it would be to forbid the use of L-plates for commercial purposes....
You don't need to bring in a law - there's not a chance that a driver on L plates has hire & reward insurance. In fact, it'll be unusual to find any delivery drivers with it.
Then I don;t know why the police don't just set up a number of roadblocks and impound them en-masse....they'd make a killing in London, especially as they can bill £150 odd per recovery and fit about 20 scooters on a flatbed....

ashleyman

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7,284 posts

128 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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Here's one from today. This guy has been past twice so far.

Not the best photo - I'm using a 400mm lens to get these as the path is 50m from the house but you can clearly see the kiddies playpark and the orange gate.

The bit of tarmac on the right hand sides now a pedestrian area. The path he is on goes from one car park on one side of the park, past the entrance to the playground and then out to the car park on the other side.

I've reported it via 101 and have been given an email address to send photos/footage too. The camera is 50m from the path so it doesn't show number plates, same with eyeballing it, it's so far away and the plates are just a bit too small to make out properly. I got the big camera out for the reach so I can see number plates. Not sure they'll be bothered to do anything.

I suppose it might be worth emailing my local MP. But then is it worth it? 4 weeks of temporary traffic lights left.



Edited by ashleyman on Monday 1st July 15:31

eldar

25,274 posts

225 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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eybic said:
Its a great idea to send a moped with rapidly deflating tyres into a play area rolleyes
Better to eliminate the problem by not riding a moped in a play area at all.

Or it that too simple. Caltrops, by the way...



Pica-Pica

16,592 posts

113 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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ashleyman said:
Here's one from today. This guy has been past twice so far.

Not the best photo - I'm using a 400mm lens to get these as the path is 50m from the house but you can clearly see the kiddies playpark and the orange gate.

The bit of tarmac on the right hand sides now a pedestrian area. The path he is on goes from one car park on one side of the park, past the entrance to the playground and then out to the car park on the other side.

I've reported it via 101 and have been given an email address to send photos/footage too. The camera is 50m from the path so it doesn't show number plates, same with eyeballing it, it's so far away and the plates are just a bit too small to make out properly. I got the big camera out for the reach so I can see number plates. Not sure they'll be bothered to do anything.

I suppose it might be worth emailing my local MP. But then is it worth it? 4 weeks of temporary traffic lights left.



Edited by ashleyman on Monday 1st July 15:31
If people can send dash cams to police, that is worth a try.

S100HP

13,787 posts

196 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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I might have misunderstood, but I can see that reg. It's LD67 PSY.

eybic

9,212 posts

203 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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S100HP said:
I might have misunderstood, but I can see that reg. It's LD67 PSY.
I think he's saying that unless he uses an SLR (as he did for that pic) then no reg gets captured.

ashleyman

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7,284 posts

128 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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S100HP said:
I might have misunderstood, but I can see that reg. It's LD67 PSY.
You can see the reg in the photo because it was taken on a dslr with a 400mm telephoto lens!

You can’t make it out in person or on CCTV unfortunately. Hence not having legible CCTV of peds with plates.

motco

17,619 posts

275 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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eldar said:
Better to eliminate the problem by not riding a moped in a play area at all.

Or it that too simple. Caltrops, by the way...
Captrops indeed Sir! Sometimes spelled calthrop and medieval in origin I think. Like these:



A1VDY

3,575 posts

156 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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If the ecilop won't do anything about the problem... Boiler suit, balaclava and bat. Use a few of their brainless heads as target practice, word will soon get around as well as the pavement being blocked with bits of ped and deliveroo wkers..

LunarOne

7,318 posts

166 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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A1VDY said:
If the ecilop won't do anything about the problem... Boiler suit, balaclava and bat. Use a few of their brainless heads as target practice, word will soon get around as well as the pavement being blocked with bits of ped and deliveroo wkers..
Why don't you just suggest that the OP strings some fishing line or wire across the path at neck height? D!ck.

SVTRick

3,633 posts

224 months

Monday 1st July 2019
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LunarOne said:
A1VDY said:
If the ecilop won't do anything about the problem... Boiler suit, balaclava and bat. Use a few of their brainless heads as target practice, word will soon get around as well as the pavement being blocked with bits of ped and deliveroo wkers..
Why don't you just suggest that the OP strings some fishing line or wire across the path at neck height? D!ck.
Or just man up and confront them instead of being a spineless tt
Try growing a pair