Pulled with no insurance
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RetroTed

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1,029 posts

238 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Evening all
So Sunday I was stopped by northants police on my way to Ford fair because my car came back as uninsured
I genuinely thought it was a joke as I have a trade policy and I knew the car was covered and has been for months
After logging in to my policy it transpires that the numbers are the wrong way around so G123 instead of G132 for example
Now this is weird as the car is taxed on a monthly DD basis so how is this possible as surely you can't tax a car without the correct insurance
The incorrect reg on my insurance doesn't relate to any other vehicle on the road
Today I received a £300 fine and 6 points or the chance to go to court
Is it worth my while trying to plea my case and show the judge what has happened or am I wasting my time
I've had a clean licence for 25 years so I'm gutted tbh
Any advice would be welcomed

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Nah, they don’t give a fk mate. Pay the fine take the points

p4cks

7,497 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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RetroTed said:
you can't tax a car without the correct insurance
You can.

Maybe speak to the insurance company and explain the administration error on your part and see if they'd be kind enough to amend it retrospectively. It's a long shot but shy bairns get nowt.

fiju

704 posts

92 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Go to court.

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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You haven't needed proof of insurance to tax a car for years.

Surprised you haven't been fined by the DVLA for having a taxed car that isn't insured.

Vaud

59,496 posts

184 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Talk to the insurance company.

They may provide a statement that they consider it to have been covered, as there should be no difference in the value of the premium?

98elise

32,593 posts

190 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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p4cks said:
RetroTed said:
you can't tax a car without the correct insurance
You can.

Maybe speak to the insurance company and explain the administration error on your part and see if they'd be kind enough to amend it retrospectively. It's a long shot but shy bairns get nowt.
Agreed. If they are willing to say you would have been covered then you might be fine. It sounds like purely an admin error so hopefully they will agree.

You are not the first person to do this, and you won't be the last.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

276 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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fiju said:
Go to court.
it seems that you have nothing to lose, you may as well go to court!

I had the same issue with my insurance, got pulled over and after a call to my insurance company the police let me on my way and the insurance company sent me out an amended policy.

no points, no fine , no court hearing.



JDiz

1,074 posts

273 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Ask the insurance for a letter of indemnity that shows they would have covered you, then take that to court.

RetroTed

Original Poster:

1,029 posts

238 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Brilliant thanks for the info guys I'll call the insurance in the morning

untakenname

5,352 posts

221 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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It's possible the insurers transcribed what you said wrong so if they don't play ball and issue and indemnity certificate then ask for a copy of the recording.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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A bit useless now, but my tip is to check Askmid a couple of days/a week after you've insured it, it only takes 20 seconds.

Especially having watched re-runs of Police Interceptors on Dave.

Dog Star

17,597 posts

197 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Seems very harsh - I’m hoping that the court is reasonable about this.

vonhosen

40,597 posts

246 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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An administrative error doesn't mean you weren't insured if the insurance company says that you were in fact covered despite it.
The Police aren't privy to that, they've only seen that as yet you haven't produced evidence of cover as required.
Satisfactory statement from Insurance company should see it covered.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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The poster has a trade policy so it's likely be updated the MID himself.

Providing the vehicle was under your control within the terms of your trade policy you are insured so you will be ok.

Your certificate of insurance should be evidence enough of that .

Trax

1,600 posts

261 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Surprised it even got this far, of course your insured. You insure the car, not a number plate.

Bigends

6,157 posts

157 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Surely this could have been resolved at the roadside if the Insurance company was contactable on a Sunday?

Lindun

1,965 posts

91 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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There’s so much more to discuss on here though.

Traders insurance - was he using it correctly? Is it a car from stock? Should he be using it privately?

Police - much more to have a go at them about. Why didn’t they seize it? If they figured it was insured, then why punish him? How have they managed to get the fine and points to him so quickly? If he could log on at the roadside, why wouldn’t they just accept it was an admin error and he could fix it there and then?

Road tax - maybe have a go about the “new” system. Plenty of time to rant about all the extra revenue from double taxing in the first month.

There’s so much to go into.

poo at Paul's

14,611 posts

204 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Lindun said:
There’s so much more to discuss on here though.

Traders insurance - was he using it correctly? Is it a car from stock? Should he be using it privately?

Police - much more to have a go at them about. Why didn’t they seize it? If they figured it was insured, then why punish him? How have they managed to get the fine and points to him so quickly? If he could log on at the roadside, why wouldn’t they just accept it was an admin error and he could fix it there and then?

Road tax - maybe have a go about the “new” system. Plenty of time to rant about all the extra revenue from double taxing in the first month.

There’s so much to go into.
You'd have got on well with that "R1 Loon" fella who got banned off here...!! laughlaugh

HustleRussell

26,506 posts

189 months

Tuesday 6th August 2019
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Funkstar De Luxe said:
Nah, they don’t give a fk mate. Pay the fine take the points
Bad advice. You don’t want an ‘IN’ offence code on your licence if you can help it- not unless you want massively more expensive insurance premiums