Caught speeding but where do I stand?

[Chingaling]

EDIT as getting so much ammo fired

Essentially I just wanted to know if it was feasible to get around a speeding ticket (doing 90 in a 70) as the registered keeper was on holiday so was not driving the vehicle and whether there is a "get out" by them proving it wasn't them driving and they do not know who was driving.

Looking for a simple NO not possible take the points or YES you possibly could contest

Anyone who wants to have a pop just private message me

Edited by Chingaling on Tuesday 13th August 15:34

Edited by Chingaling on Tuesday 13th August 15:44

[Pica-Pica]

We can wait for the NIP, but ‘I wasn’t paying attention’, is not really grounds for contesting now, is it?

[kambites]

If you acknowledge you were breaking the limit on what basis would you contest it?

[RedWhiteMonkey]

Chingaling said:

Got flashed doing about 90 on the M5 going from Worcester to Bromsgrove, I think it's a Smart Motorway now so even sure if it was a variable speed or normal 70. I never drive on there but anyway I wasn't paying attention and believe I got flashed even though vehicles doing similar speeds on there

The car I was driving is a family members who is actually abroad

If it is a standard penalty I'll take it on the chin but if it is any more is it worth the hassle of contesting?

Family member can prove they weren't driving it as on holiday and there is only one other person named on the insurance (I took out temporary insurance)

Any feedback greatly appreciated, hopefully a notice doesn't come through but I'm anticipating it !

What would be your grounds for contesting any prosecution?

[Pintofbest]

I wouldn't recommend saying you weren't paying attention as a mitigating factor. Nor can I understand why you think it is contestable.

I was flashed in the same place, keeping up with traffic and got clocked at 45 in the (at the time) 40 limit. When I opted for the course and not the points I noticed I was on a 'Smart Motorway Awareness' course and this is all we learnt about - this doesn't count as a speed awareness course so you can still opt for one of those should be caught again and offered it.

[Chingaling]

Sorry if I didn't make it clear but it isn't my vehicle so my family member will get the NIP addressed to them but they can prove that they were not driving the vehicle as abroad at the time so my question is if that is sufficient enough essentially them saying "it wasn't me and I can prove it but also I do not know who was driving it", to contest it?

[The Wookie]

This isn't going to go well for you OP

[RedWhiteMonkey]

Chingaling said:

Sorry if I didn't make it clear but it isn't my vehicle so my family member will get the NIP addressed to them but they can prove that they were not driving the vehicle as abroad at the time so my question is if that is sufficient enough essentially them saying "it wasn't me and I can prove it but also I do not know who was driving it", to contest it?

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[ChickenvanGuy]

Chingaling said:

Sorry if I didn't make it clear but it isn't my vehicle so my family member will get the NIP addressed to them but they can prove that they were not driving the vehicle as abroad at the time so my question is if that is sufficient enough essentially them saying "it wasn't me and I can prove it but also I do not know who was driving it", to contest it?

Isn't that perverting the course of justice?

Are you sure that's wise?

You are bang to rights, pay up!

[Oldandslow]

Chingaling said:

Sorry if I didn't make it clear but it isn't my vehicle so my family member will get the NIP addressed to them but they can prove that they were not driving the vehicle as abroad at the time so my question is if that is sufficient enough essentially them saying "it wasn't me and I can prove it but also I do not know who was driving it", to contest it?

They could knowingly supply false information. This then pisses off some copper who digs deeper into it and finds a temporary insurance with your name on it. Could turn out much worse than 3 points.

[Dimebars]

Where do you stand?

At the bus stop, hopefully

[Chingaling]

Wow some salty users on here, just after some advice if you've not got anything constructive to say please get back to work.

[TwigtheWonderkid]

Chingaling said:

Sorry if I didn't make it clear but it isn't my vehicle so my family member will get the NIP addressed to them but they can prove that they were not driving the vehicle as abroad at the time so my question is if that is sufficient enough essentially them saying "it wasn't me and I can prove it but also I do not know who was driving it", to contest it?

Would this family member be prepared to commit the offence of perverting the course of justice, and possibly risk prison, to stop you getting a speeding offence (that you actually earned)? If so, is their stupidity a family trait, or just confined to the two of you?

[The_Nugget]

Chingaling said:

Wow some salty users on here, just after some advice if you've not got anything constructive to say please get back to work.

You are essentially asking people to advise you how to get you/your family members to commit an offence of peverting the course of justice. This carries a much weightier penalty than 3 points. See recent cases of an MP sent to prison for essentially the same thing.

[NickCQ]

Chingaling said:

Sorry if I didn't make it clear but it isn't my vehicle so my family member will get the NIP addressed to them but they can prove that they were not driving the vehicle as abroad at the time so my question is if that is sufficient enough essentially them saying "it wasn't me and I can prove it but also I do not know who was driving it", to contest it?

Loophole!

[Rtype]

Suck it up, you know what has happened. By playing the game you are thinking of doing so, you put the vehicle owner, at risk of a MS90 conviction. Not a great one to have.

[Kev_Mk3]

Dimebars said:

Where do you stand?

At the bus stop, hopefully

As soon as I had read the title that's what I said

[drjdog]

Chingaling said:

Wow some salty users on here, just after some advice if you've not got anything constructive to say please get back to work.

Most people on this forum are probably your run of the mill, law-abiding people. If you want advice on the best way to get your relative banged up, head to another forum.

[RSTurboPaul]

The_Nugget said:

Chingaling said:

Wow some salty users on here, just after some advice if you've not got anything constructive to say please get back to work.

You are essentially asking people to advise you how to get you/your family members to commit an offence of peverting the course of justice. This carries a much weightier penalty than 3 points. See recent cases of an MP sent to prison for essentially the same thing.

That presumes that the family members know the OP was driving the car - if they don't, they won't be lying if they say they were out of the country and therefore didn't know who was driving / don't understand how the vehicle number plates have been captured on a camera.

That leads into TWOC, though, I imagine, which is probably a somewhat stiffer penalty (and insurance implications) than 3 points and a £100 fine...

[Bill]

Chingaling said:

Wow some salty users on here, just after some advice if you've not got anything constructive to say please get back to work.

You're right. Don't listen to them. You just need the owner to stand fast on not knowing who the driver is and you're home and dry. Ignore all the unconstructive Wibble about PCOJ and Failure to provide they're just being silly.