Multi tool in boot?
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M12MTR

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252 posts

106 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Hi. Reading about Danny Kent with a knife on him / in his vehicle; would you be in trouble carrying a multi tool (with various tools and a 4" blade) in the boot of your car?

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Only if the plod catch you. fking ridiculous state of affairs this country is in.

M12MTR

Original Poster:

252 posts

106 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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^^^ Thanks. I've always carried one ...... for car use / camping / just handy to have.

Best take it out then.

darreni

4,529 posts

299 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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I wouldn’t have thought you’d have an issue. I have a mini toolkit in the boot - torque wrench, screwdrivers, tyre pressure gauge & a multi tool. I can’t imagine this would be an issue.

Having a knife in the door pocket etc, I would expect to be an issue.

kambites

71,475 posts

250 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Yeah I don't think having a knife as part of a toolkit in the boot will do any harm; carrying one in reach in the car might be frowned upon.

Bill

58,658 posts

284 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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He was carrying a kitchen knife to enforce a debt, no? And got involved in a scuffle.

Slightly different to a multitool in the boot.

cologne2792

2,151 posts

155 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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I have one multi tool, a packet of a dozen 4 inch razor blades and three scrapers containing said blades in my truck at all times.
I'm a window cleaner.

tejr

3,498 posts

193 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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It would pretty justifiable if its in the tool kit with other tools in the boot and not 'at hand'.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

276 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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It depends on whether or not the police want to prosecute you or not. I would think that in most cases they might tell you you shouldn't have it and leave it at that.

A friend of mine must have failed the attitude test as he got prosecuted for a little locking knife he had carried in his toolbox for decades. It was about 3-4 inches long and he ended up with a criminal record for an offensive weapon.

FunkyNige

9,821 posts

304 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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The law is (snipped from https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives for the relevant bits)

It’s illegal to:
-carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less

Lock knives
Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:
-have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button
-can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener

And the good reason bit not so helpfully says:
A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife or a weapon if you’re charged with carrying it illegally.

So it seems if your multitool has a blade it's illegal, but you can have a multitool without a blade and a folding knife with a <3" blade next to it and you're OK? Unless the blade bit doesn't have a button when your multitool with a blade is OK?

PorkInsider

6,589 posts

170 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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M12MTR said:
Hi. Reading about Danny Kent with a knife on him / in his vehicle; would you be in trouble carrying a multi tool (with various tools and a 4" blade) in the boot of your car?
I wouldn't equate what that utter fkwit did with you having a perfectly reasonable tool in your car.

He had a kitchen knife on him whilst 'collecting a debt' with his brother and was dim enough to think a court would believe it was for 'opening boxes at work'.

Dogwatch

6,381 posts

251 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Shuvi McTupya said:
It depends on whether or not the police want to prosecute you or not. I would think that in most cases they might tell you you shouldn't have it and leave it at that.

A friend of mine must have failed the attitude test as he got prosecuted for a little locking knife he had carried in his toolbox for decades. It was about 3-4 inches long and he ended up with a criminal record for an offensive weapon.
I think lock knives have always been a no-no withh the authorities.This was the case even at a time when many schoolboys carried a (usually blunt) penknife as a matter of course.

Integroo

11,631 posts

114 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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FunkyNige said:
The law is (snipped from https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives for the relevant bits)

It’s illegal to:
-carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less

Lock knives
Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:
-have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button
-can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener

And the good reason bit not so helpfully says:
A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife or a weapon if you’re charged with carrying it illegally.

So it seems if your multitool has a blade it's illegal, but you can have a multitool without a blade and a folding knife with a <3" blade next to it and you're OK? Unless the blade bit doesn't have a button when your multitool with a blade is OK?
If it is a folding blade in your multi tool that is under 3" and does not lock it is fine.

If it is a locking blade that is over 3" you shouldn't carry it.

Shuvi McTupya

24,460 posts

276 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Dogwatch said:
I think lock knives have always been a no-no withh the authorities.This was the case even at a time when many schoolboys carried a (usually blunt) penknife as a matter of course.
I am sure you are right but as kids we all carried knives of various types and never gave it a second thought as in our minds they weren't weapons, they were toys/tools.

I used to carry a Bowie knife just about every where when I was 12-13!

bluezedd

1,287 posts

111 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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If it's along with other tools, then I doubt there would be any issue, especially if you're going to do a certain job.

I wouldn't want a locking Stanley knife in an accessible location though in the car, but would be happy to carry one in a tool box in the boot, along with my other items.

If I was carrying a knife in public for a good reason, I'd still rather have a non-locking <3cm blade. That way there's no need to have a "good reason" to carry it.

SlimJim16v

8,103 posts

172 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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FunkyNige said:
The law is (snipped from https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives for the relevant bits)

Lock knives
Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:
-have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button
I'm surprised that even the government site has this wrong.
Though they give the correct definition of a lock knife, the actual law defines it as a knife that is not readily foldable, so even a non locking blade on a multitool can fall foul if you need to unfold the handle to fold the blade.

I carry a knifeless multitool in my car, so if I need a knife, a have several 2" - 3" knives, from Swiss Army to scary pointy ones, all Legal, I can take.

Edited by SlimJim16v on Friday 16th August 18:30

Wacky Racer

41,336 posts

276 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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It's important to stress that to be legal to carry, the under 3" (cutting edge) knife has to be NON LOCKING.

Electro1980

9,139 posts

168 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Funkstar De Luxe said:
Only if the plod catch you. fking ridiculous state of affairs this country is in.
Yes. What a ridiculous state of affairs when two 20 somethings can’t carry a kitchen knife to collect a debt from a 69 year old!

48k

17,411 posts

177 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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FunkyNige said:
The law is (snipped from https://www.gov.uk/buying-carrying-knives for the relevant bits)

It’s illegal to:
-carry a knife in public without good reason, unless it has a folding blade with a cutting edge 3 inches long or less

Lock knives
Lock knives are not classed as folding knives and are illegal to carry in public without good reason. Lock knives:
-have blades that can be locked and refolded only by pressing a button
-can include multi-tool knives - tools that also contain other devices such as a screwdriver or can opener

And the good reason bit not so helpfully says:
A court will decide if you’ve got a good reason to carry a knife or a weapon if you’re charged with carrying it illegally.

So it seems if your multitool has a blade it's illegal, but you can have a multitool without a blade and a folding knife with a <3" blade next to it and you're OK? Unless the blade bit doesn't have a button when your multitool with a blade is OK?
The OPs question was about carrying the knife in the boot of the car, not sure what you've posted is relevant?

Randy Winkman

22,453 posts

218 months

Friday 16th August 2019
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Electro1980 said:
Funkstar De Luxe said:
Only if the plod catch you. fking ridiculous state of affairs this country is in.
Yes. What a ridiculous state of affairs when two 20 somethings can’t carry a kitchen knife to collect a debt from a 69 year old!
Thanks. Sometimes on PH I think I'm in a parallel universe.