Parking At A Junction
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bad company

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21,204 posts

286 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Are there any laws against parking right on a junction and often on the pavement. The photos were taken fairly close to where I live and to me are examples of dangerous parking, on a bend and on a junction. Both were taken at the same junction where parking seems to be a recurring problem.

I know the Highway Code says you mustn't park next do a junction but that doesn't make it law.





semisane

894 posts

102 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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.gov says not

DO NOT stop or park: ... opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space. near the brow of a hill or hump bridge. opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle

to many cars / to many peoples

hondafanatic

4,969 posts

221 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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semisane said:
.gov says not

DO NOT stop or park: ... opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space. near the brow of a hill or hump bridge. opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle

to many cars / to many peoples
This would be a total cash cow in my village if it’s enforced with tickets. The parking is ridiculous at times. I do sometimes wonder if fire truck would just smash it’s way through the gaps I can only just about get my car through.

Gareth79

8,617 posts

266 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Parking on junctions, overhanging the road like that, pavement parking (outside London) seems almost completely unenforced these days.

There has been a proposal to decriminalise pavement parking outside London at least, to allow councils to enforce it.

Lemming Train

5,567 posts

92 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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bad company

Original Poster:

21,204 posts

286 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Lemming Train said:
Not really. That seems to be just examples and pictures of badly parked vehicles on private and public land.

I was hoping that someone was going to say phone the local authority/police/whoever and something will be done about it. Sadly it doesn’t look that way.

JuniorD

9,013 posts

243 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Top pic above infringes

Rule 248
You MUST NOT park on a road at night facing against the direction of the traffic flow unless in a recognised parking space.

anonymous-user

74 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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semisane said:
.to many cars / to many peoples
More likely just too many selfish/thick people.

bad company said:
Not really. That seems to be just examples and pictures of badly parked vehicles on private and public land.

I was hoping that someone was going to say phone the local authority/police/whoever and something will be done about it. Sadly it doesn’t look that way.
And therein lies the problem, all this division of roles to 'cut costs' ? Private land aside.
Police usually CBA so bat it to council even more so since parking decriminalisation ?
Council claim understaffing etc just a downward spiral.

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/governmen...

MitchT

17,064 posts

229 months

Friday 27th September 2019
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Not a junction but a roundabout. At the top of the road that I live on there's a mini roundabout.

On a regular basis some cretin parks in the position indicated buy the red block. If you're traveling in the direction of the green arrow and turning left at the roundabout you're going to be looking right at the roundabout as you have to give way to traffic coming from the right. I'm sensible enough to look left too but one day someone else won't be and the aforementioned parked car will get clobbered and it'll serve them right. There's more than enough space around the back of the house that they're parked outside.

On a slightly less regular basis another cretin parks a large van in the position indicated by the orange block. Obviously, the only way round this is by driving on the wrong side of the road as you approach the roundabout. If someone's exiting the roundabout from the direction of the green arrow and is looking right, they won't be expecting you to be driving straight towards them on the wrong side of the road. You'll be in the wrong even though there's no other choice.

If I had my way inconsiderate parking would be policed far more vigorously and the owners of inconsiderately vehicles damaged in collisions caused by their inconsiderate parking would share the liability.


mmm-five

11,981 posts

304 months

Saturday 28th September 2019
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This is what the end of our road usually looks like - can make turning out of the road a bit of a hazard (there is only 1 designated disabled parking space, and that is where the left-most red car is parked).


(and yes, the other cars are just cut & paste of the left-most ones, as I just needed an illustrative example biggrin)

xjay1337

15,966 posts

138 months

Saturday 28th September 2019
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hondafanatic said:
semisane said:
.gov says not

DO NOT stop or park: ... opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space. near the brow of a hill or hump bridge. opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle

to many cars / to many peoples
This would be a total cash cow in my village if it’s enforced with tickets. The parking is ridiculous at times. I do sometimes wonder if fire truck would just smash it’s way through the gaps I can only just about get my car through.
I don't think it's fair to blame soley people.
Council / government is also to blame - clearly lacked the forward vision to maybe build some communal car parks, or force developers to accomodate 2 parking spacers per new house

anonymous-user

74 months

Saturday 28th September 2019
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semisane said:
to many cars / to many peoples
You really are right.

It's a consquence of just the sheer number of cars there are now. That and people are far less concerned about peer pressue (directly because most of our peers are now strangers - a consequence of hugely increased population) - i.e. we used to abide by the pressure that came from being seen to do the right thing because it was highly likely that we'd meet, or be known by the people we passed on a day to day basis. Now we live far more insular lives.

However, some people clearly are just "the sort"

We have a family that park their vans on a double blind corner that is reiculously dangerous (blind approach, and an opposite blind departure). On 50 road that forces cars over to the other side of the road as they only see it at the last minute. They have ample parking in their huge drive but can't be arsed to open the gate (a gate with "loose dogs" sign on it, and indeed, snarling horrible loose dogs behind it)

:-)

Drumroll

4,310 posts

140 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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xjay1337 said:
I don't think it's fair to blame soley people.
Council / government is also to blame - clearly lacked the forward vision to maybe build some communal car parks, or force developers to accomodate 2 parking spacers per new house
As well over half the houses in our village are over 100 years old, I don't think one could really blame our council for that (although some on the local facache page seem too) The government did have forward vision in restricting parking on new developments. They want us to rely less on the car and more on public transport. What they haven't allowed for is what to do until we get to that point.

bad company

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21,204 posts

286 months

Sunday 29th September 2019
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Drumroll said:
As well over half the houses in our village are over 100 years old, I don't think one could really blame our council for that (although some on the local facache page seem too) The government did have forward vision in restricting parking on new developments. They want us to rely less on the car and more on public transport. What they haven't allowed for is what to do until we get to that point.
They also haven’t allowed for people living in villages such as mine. We get around 6 buses through a day and the last train left the station in 1963.

People here NEED cars and that’s not going to change anytime soon so adequate parking facilities needs to be addressed.

Shakermaker

11,317 posts

120 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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bad company said:
They also haven’t allowed for people living in villages such as mine. We get around 6 buses through a day and the last train left the station in 1963.

People here NEED cars and that’s not going to change anytime soon so adequate parking facilities needs to be addressed.
six buses per DAY? That's a luxury!

We used to get two buses a week where I grew up, and one of those was on a circular route so it didn't actually "come back" either, without you going in to town, then going into the next town and then coming back.

At least we had two rail stations with regular service, one was 4 miles away the other was 6 miles away.

WJNB

2,637 posts

181 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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[quote=bad company
I know the Highway Code says you mustn't park next do a junction but that doesn't make it law.

The Highway Code is just a waste of paper. Who these days obeys the laws & rules laid down anyway? Plod has better things to do & no time & money for bothering with parking infringements.


nonsequitur

20,083 posts

136 months

Monday 30th September 2019
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WJNB said:
[quote=bad company
I know the Highway Code says you mustn't park next do a junction but that doesn't make it law.

The Highway Code is just a waste of paper. Who these days obeys the laws & rules laid down anyway? Plod has better things to do & no time & money for bothering with parking infringements.
Parking matters have been the responsibility of local authorities for some time.

A waste of paper? Who obeys the rules? Who obeys the laws? The vast majority of drivers, that's who.:drivingyes:drivingyesdrivingyesdrivingyesdrivingyes

Driversmatter

236 posts

113 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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You can be given FPN (3pts £100) for obstructing the highway if you park dangerously... Zigzag lines, within 10m of junction, hill crest or bend (unless in marked bay). Does it happen? Not often enough probably no doubt due to diminished resources.

anonymous-user

74 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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WJNB said:
Plod has better things to do & no time & money for bothering with parking infringements
????? Really ????.
If they actually got their arse in gear and sorted some of the low level stuff it maybe wouldn't creep.
I noticed in both Spain and Nepal this year the plod are much more active "having a word" with transgressing motorists and general dheads. It was a pleasure to see rather than the usual "walk on/drive on" by I seem to see more often than not from the police in this country.

Bigends

5,974 posts

148 months

Tuesday 1st October 2019
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speedyguy said:
WJNB said:
Plod has better things to do & no time & money for bothering with parking infringements
????? Really ????.
If they actually got their arse in gear and sorted some of the low level stuff it maybe wouldn't creep.
I noticed in both Spain and Nepal this year the plod are much more active "having a word" with transgressing motorists and general dheads. It was a pleasure to see rather than the usual "walk on/drive on" by I seem to see more often than not from the police in this country.
We used to back in the good ol' days. Stopped the boredom on foot patrol, banging on a few doors to get cars parked on top of junctions shifted.