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In my hometown this week gone there has been two hit and runs and both times the cars were on false plates. I also saw a video on the local "Spotted" page of two guys in an Audi on false plates jacking up Prius's and removing the catalytic converter
I bought a set of plates for my own car on eBay six months ago, just normal road going plates. In the advert it said I would have to provide I.D but I was never asked for any
My question is, when a car is on false plates is it a case of said driver of car has simply ripped a set of plates of a car and bolted them on or have they actually just got a set printed and running them on the wrong car unbeknown to the real owner. I don't know why buying plates is so easy without I.D, I hate to think how many cars are driving around with false plates right now. I'm surprised it has'nt been clamped down on years ago, it must be a nightmare for the Police
I bought a set of plates for my own car on eBay six months ago, just normal road going plates. In the advert it said I would have to provide I.D but I was never asked for any
My question is, when a car is on false plates is it a case of said driver of car has simply ripped a set of plates of a car and bolted them on or have they actually just got a set printed and running them on the wrong car unbeknown to the real owner. I don't know why buying plates is so easy without I.D, I hate to think how many cars are driving around with false plates right now. I'm surprised it has'nt been clamped down on years ago, it must be a nightmare for the Police
If they are stolen from another car then if the victim reports it then the plates are put onto ANPR so it makes sense for the criminals to use show plates instead.
Up until 2015 it was easier for the police to check a car as they look to see if the tax disc had been tampered with.
With the amount of ANPR cameras on the roads it's relatively trivial to write a script that flags any cars that are currently on the road at the same time a set distance away as one of them will be on cloned plates but to my knowledge this doesn't happen.
Up until 2015 it was easier for the police to check a car as they look to see if the tax disc had been tampered with.
With the amount of ANPR cameras on the roads it's relatively trivial to write a script that flags any cars that are currently on the road at the same time a set distance away as one of them will be on cloned plates but to my knowledge this doesn't happen.
ChasW said:
Recently discovered, on receipt of an unexpected PCN, that my number plate has been cloned. Interestingly the other vehicle is same make and model but different colour. The PCN has been dropped but I wonder what might happen next. Police and DVLA have been informed.
Probably nothing unless it's stopped for something else Rasta Pickles said:
Nowadays, with so many speed / junction box / bus lane cameras, there is a very real desire for otherwise law-abiding ordinary citizens to hide their true identity as they traverse the UK road network.
Technically, unless you manage to break every single law on the Statute Books you could commit mass murder, multiple counts of armed robbery, and GBH and still consider yourself "otherwise a law-abiding ordinary citizen".If the number of people using false plates has increased, it's purely because the number of selfish twunts has increased.
untakenname said:
If they are stolen from another car then if the victim reports it then the plates are put onto ANPR so it makes sense for the criminals to use show plates instead.
Up until 2015 it was easier for the police to check a car as they look to see if the tax disc had been tampered with.
With the amount of ANPR cameras on the roads it's relatively trivial to write a script that flags any cars that are currently on the road at the same time a set distance away as one of them will be on cloned plates but to my knowledge this doesn't happen.
Probably because whatever big name IT provider quoted a few million to add "smart" detection algorithms, but you could probably hire a reasonably smart developer to develop it full time and pull out a load of suspicious events for <100k per annum.Up until 2015 it was easier for the police to check a car as they look to see if the tax disc had been tampered with.
With the amount of ANPR cameras on the roads it's relatively trivial to write a script that flags any cars that are currently on the road at the same time a set distance away as one of them will be on cloned plates but to my knowledge this doesn't happen.
Then again they'd probably struggle to actually deal with the number of alerts.
anonymous said:
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Scrotes are going around cutting off catalytic converters in the middle of the night - Drilling a couple of rivets is hardly going to be a challenge to thieves (and most modern battery drills are remarkably quiet - especially at slow speeds).Theft resistant plates have been available for a while now, that shatter into several pieces if someone tries to remove them - That would be much better than a couple of easy to drill out rivets.
However, most criminals know that stealing plates off another car is only of short term use, because as soon as the owner of the stolen plates realises what has happened, and reports it to the police, the police will then be looking for any vehicle wearing that registration number, so after a day or so, there's a big risk of being spotted.
By buying a set of "show plates" on-line that clone someone else's number, they know that, so long as the make, model and colour of their car matches the real car, it could be weeks or months before they come under any suspicion.
The people I don't understand are those who have had their plates cloned, and then spend months on end getting speeding tickets, parking tickets, complaints of making off without paying for fuel etc., etc., and complain that they're fed up getting them, and having to explain to the relevant authorities that it's not their car involved. If I discovered someone had cloned my plate, I'd simply buy a replacement age related plate, so that any offences being committed on the old registration number would no longer come back to me - Hardly rocket science!
Rasta Pickles said:
It's the whole scales thing, isn't it?
Plod want to start hiding their camera vans behind large bushes on stretches of road that haven't seen an RTA since God was a boy.......then Joe Public needs to even out the scales.
I now use false plates regularly; I'm a 61 year old male who hasn't had so much as a parking ticket in all of those wretched years on this hell hole of a planet.
But I'll take every advantage I can (as do Plod).
Fair's fair?
It's not "Joe Public" though (although people tell themselves that to ease their conscience). It's individuals choosing not to comply with certain laws and pretending that they're somehow justified in doing so. What are your views about driving without an MOT, or insurance, or Road Tax? A scrote might argue that they're unfair, disproportionate, a form of regressive taxation, and therefore it's fone not to comply. But the real reason is because they're scrotes.Plod want to start hiding their camera vans behind large bushes on stretches of road that haven't seen an RTA since God was a boy.......then Joe Public needs to even out the scales.
I now use false plates regularly; I'm a 61 year old male who hasn't had so much as a parking ticket in all of those wretched years on this hell hole of a planet.
But I'll take every advantage I can (as do Plod).
Fair's fair?
TheDukeofBork said:
Rasta Pickles said:
I now use false plates regularly; I'm a 61 year old male who hasn't had so much as a parking ticket in all of those wretched years on this hell hole of a planet.
Presumably some other poor sods had to deal with all your parking tickets?eldar said:
Ructions said:
A local back street garage will sell you a pair for £6. No questions asked.
Make your own with a cheap printer, yellow print stock and clingfilm. Good enough to fool a casual observer or camera.RobaBarker said:
And speeding fines. Maybe the planet is a 'hell hole' because of people like Mr. Pickles thinking they can do what they like to get ahead, without considering the impact on other people.
Not at all; Plod use every surreptitious means to trap motorists, speed cameras hidden behind trees (A30 at Polyphant), mobile speed camera units on dual carriageways that were a safe 50mph but are now a 30mph (A38 Gypsy Patch Lane, Patchway)........you can either get down all on fours and take it up the Hershey Highway or you can be man enough to say "whoa, enough is enough".Which camp are you in?
meatballs said:
untakenname said:
If they are stolen from another car then if the victim reports it then the plates are put onto ANPR so it makes sense for the criminals to use show plates instead.
Up until 2015 it was easier for the police to check a car as they look to see if the tax disc had been tampered with.
With the amount of ANPR cameras on the roads it's relatively trivial to write a script that flags any cars that are currently on the road at the same time a set distance away as one of them will be on cloned plates but to my knowledge this doesn't happen.
Probably because whatever big name IT provider quoted a few million to add "smart" detection algorithms, but you could probably hire a reasonably smart developer to develop it full time and pull out a load of suspicious events for <100k per annum.Up until 2015 it was easier for the police to check a car as they look to see if the tax disc had been tampered with.
With the amount of ANPR cameras on the roads it's relatively trivial to write a script that flags any cars that are currently on the road at the same time a set distance away as one of them will be on cloned plates but to my knowledge this doesn't happen.
Then again they'd probably struggle to actually deal with the number of alerts.
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