French Speeding Ticket, number two...lolz

[LM24Nut]

They got me again...but this time it took a while.

Ticket arrived today, offence took place 13/07/2019 and before or after my visit to the WW1 Armistice site at Compiegne. After, I headed up to Reims to visit the original WW2 surrender site.

Here's the damage

- Your vehicle was checked at: 58 km/h
- For an authorised speed limit of: 50 km/h
- The speed used is: 53 km/h
- Direction: COMPIEGNE vers SOISSONS

Fine = 90 Euros.

I've paid it, but do take care out there, chaps...lolz

P.S. Yes, I use Waze...but I obviously wasn't paying attention to the speed limit and/or my speed.

Edited by LM24Nut on Saturday 5th October 19:59

[Exige77]

LM24Nut said:

They got me again...but this time it took a while.

Ticket arrived today, offence took place 13/07/2019 and before or after my visit to the WW1 Armistice site at Compiegne. After, I headed up to Reims to visit the original WW2 surrender site.

Here's the damage

- Your vehicle was checked at: 58 km/h
- For an authorised speed limit of: 50 km/h
- The speed used is: 53 km/h
- Direction: COMPIEGNE vers SOISSONS

Fine = 90 Euros.

I've paid it, but do take care out there, chaps...lolz

P.S. Yes, I use Waze...but I obviously wasn't paying attention to the speed limit and/or my speed.

Edited by LM24Nut on Saturday 5th October 19:59

They have mobile speed cameras (unmarked cars with cameras front and back) so sometimes impossible to spot.

This was the authorities solution to so many cameras being smashed up.

Surprised it’s taken this long for you to get the paperwork.

[Far Cough]

Roll on 31st Oct

[Dibble]

Far Cough said:

Roll on 31st Oct

Serious question, why?

I know that’s the (possible) Brexit date, but just because we leave the EU, it won’t necessarily mean the DVLA will stop supplying data to the French (or other countries), will it? I’ve not seen/heard anything to that effect, although I may well have missed it if something has been published.

[Exige77]

Dibble said:

Far Cough said:

Roll on 31st Oct

Serious question, why?

I know that’s the (possible) Brexit date, but just because we leave the EU, it won’t necessarily mean the DVLA will stop supplying data to the French (or other countries), will it? I’ve not seen/heard anything to that effect, although I may well have missed it if something has been published.

Have you not been following the news ?

Irish back stop and sharing motorists data are the two make or break issues for Brexit.

The French economy will struggle to fill the huge hole left when Roast Beefs money dries up.

[trackdemon]

Dibble said:

Far Cough said:

Roll on 31st Oct

Serious question, why?

I know that’s the (possible) Brexit date, but just because we leave the EU, it won’t necessarily mean the DVLA will stop supplying data to the French (or other countries), will it? I’ve not seen/heard anything to that effect, although I may well have missed it if something has been published.

They may be able to request details, but I think applying their law cross border might be a bit trickier

[StanleyT]

SIL lives in the North and they've never been able to get any payment for her on the Dublin M50 Toll. When you go on the website it doesn't even recognise your NI plate car as having been there so it won't even let you pay! Our UK car though.........

[Dibble]

Exige77 said:

Dibble said:

Far Cough said:

Roll on 31st Oct

Serious question, why?

I know that’s the (possible) Brexit date, but just because we leave the EU, it won’t necessarily mean the DVLA will stop supplying data to the French (or other countries), will it? I’ve not seen/heard anything to that effect, although I may well have missed it if something has been published.

Have you not been following the news ?

Irish back stop and sharing motorists data are the two make or break issues for Brexit.

The French economy will struggle to fill the huge hole left when Roast Beefs money dries up.

I honestly hadn’t heard/seen the bit about motorists’ data being shared, on the news or elsewhere. I’m definitely aware of the Irish border issues though.

[Exige77]

Dibble said:

Exige77 said:

Dibble said:

Far Cough said:

Roll on 31st Oct

Serious question, why?

I know that’s the (possible) Brexit date, but just because we leave the EU, it won’t necessarily mean the DVLA will stop supplying data to the French (or other countries), will it? I’ve not seen/heard anything to that effect, although I may well have missed it if something has been published.

Have you not been following the news ?

Irish back stop and sharing motorists data are the two make or break issues for Brexit.

The French economy will struggle to fill the huge hole left when Roast Beefs money dries up.

I honestly hadn’t heard/seen the bit about motorists’ data being shared, on the news or elsewhere. I’m definitely aware of the Irish border issues though.

I was pulling your leg.

[Dammit]

If we leave on the 31st then it'll be no-deal, which means that absolutely every legislative arrangement ends.

Re-establishing data sharing afterward becomes tricky as we lose data equivalency, which we won't be able to get back (easily) as we only currently have it due to the carve out for national security that we get as an EU member - our bulk surveillance of the population isn't acceptable for a third country, so we'd have to address that before we could get data equivalency back.

Csn you imagine the news stories if we have to restructure our entire surveillance state apparatus due to EU regulations after we've left?

Probably a non-starter, but it'll have a huge impact on UK service exports, and anything in the UK that deals with EU citizens.

I imagine we'll see a desperate rush to move data over to the mainland ahead of the 31st if Johnson works out a way to evade the Benn act.

What does that mean for speeding fines? Dunno, I would guess that you'd be able to get away with not paying, but what would happen if you got pulled by a Gendarme with outstanding tickets could be interesting.

[normalbloke]

Dibble said:

Exige77 said:

Dibble said:

Far Cough said:

Roll on 31st Oct

Serious question, why?

I know that’s the (possible) Brexit date, but just because we leave the EU, it won’t necessarily mean the DVLA will stop supplying data to the French (or other countries), will it? I’ve not seen/heard anything to that effect, although I may well have missed it if something has been published.

Have you not been following the news ?

Irish back stop and sharing motorists data are the two make or break issues for Brexit.

The French economy will struggle to fill the huge hole left when Roast Beefs money dries up.

I honestly hadn’t heard/seen the bit about motorists’ data being shared, on the news or elsewhere. I’m definitely aware of the Irish border issues though.

Parrot for one?

[scrw.]

Dammit said:

If we leave on the 31st then it'll be no-deal, which means that absolutely every legislative arrangement ends.

Re-establishing data sharing afterward becomes tricky.......

The ability to share the data is there/being spun up rather pronto (working on one project atm) the actual agreements, unsure.

[Dammit]

We will be totally at the mercy of the EU - and until they give us the green light (and I really don't think they can, legally) the data is going to have to be in the EU to be used. My brother just spent a significant chunk of time in Malta, setting up enough DC capacity to move everything out of the UK for his company.

[LM24Nut]

Exige77 said:

They have mobile speed cameras (unmarked cars with cameras front and back) so sometimes impossible to spot.

This was the authorities solution to so many cameras being smashed up.

Surprised it’s taken this long for you to get the paperwork.

I thought the same, but coughed up...at least there's no points lolz

[Dibble]

normalbloke said:

Dibble said:

Exige77 said:

Dibble said:

Far Cough said:

Roll on 31st Oct

Serious question, why?

I know that’s the (possible) Brexit date, but just because we leave the EU, it won’t necessarily mean the DVLA will stop supplying data to the French (or other countries), will it? I’ve not seen/heard anything to that effect, although I may well have missed it if something has been published.

Have you not been following the news ?

Irish back stop and sharing motorists data are the two make or break issues for Brexit.

The French economy will struggle to fill the huge hole left when Roast Beefs money dries up.

I honestly hadn’t heard/seen the bit about motorists’ data being shared, on the news or elsewhere. I’m definitely aware of the Irish border issues though.

Parrot for one?

Quite possibly!

Personally, if I got a “foreign” speeding ticket, I’d just cough up. I wouldn’t want the faff of getting lifted if I later went back with outstanding fines etc against me (obviously, this’d depend on whether the fine was registered against the person or the vehicle).

I got stopped in Finland (for frankly silly and excessive speeds) on my motorbike back in 2014, where they obviously had my actual details, having pulled me over. I paid the fine, which was €580. I was speeding, I got caught.

I also ended up with a couple of parking fines from Copenhagen back in 2016, again for my bike. I was right in the city centre and I’d been “optimistic” about where I’d parked my bike. I paid those as well, they were about €30 each, from memory. Again, I took the risk, I ended up with tickets.

There have been plenty of other times on my Scandinavian jaunts where I’ve chanced my arm with speed and/or parking and got away with it, so I don’t grumble about when I did get caught and fined.

It’ll be interesting to see what happens post-Brexit, whenever that may be, not just with stuff like exchange of driver/keeper details, but for things like European Arrest Warrants, access to Europol data, arrest requests, foreign convictions enquiries - with the last one not being important just for EU citizens over here, but for data held abroad on UK nationals, who subsequently get arrested in the UK.