Landlord visiting student house
Discussion
Wonder if someone could shine some light on this. #1 son is in second year at university and moved into a shared rented house with 4 others. The mother of one of the residents owns the house and bought it when her son started uni, with some inheritance. No idea if she intends to sell it when he finishes.
My son has mentioned to me, that the landlord keeps calling round with the pretense of visiting her son. But as the landlord, is she allowed to do this ?
From a quick google : [i] Section 11 from the Landlord And Tenant Act 1985 states:
In a lease in which the lessor’s repairing covenant is implied there is also implied a covenant by the lessee that the lessor, or any person authorised by him in writing, may at reasonable times of the day and on giving 24 hours’ notice in writing to the occupier, enter the premises comprised in the lease for the purpose of viewing their condition and state of repair.
This means that unless your landlord or their letting agent has served you with at least 24h notice before they want to come visit, you’re under no obligation to accommodate their wishes and can arbitrarily sever their access to the property. [/i]
So does this still apply in this situation ?
My son has mentioned to me, that the landlord keeps calling round with the pretense of visiting her son. But as the landlord, is she allowed to do this ?
From a quick google : [i] Section 11 from the Landlord And Tenant Act 1985 states:
In a lease in which the lessor’s repairing covenant is implied there is also implied a covenant by the lessee that the lessor, or any person authorised by him in writing, may at reasonable times of the day and on giving 24 hours’ notice in writing to the occupier, enter the premises comprised in the lease for the purpose of viewing their condition and state of repair.
This means that unless your landlord or their letting agent has served you with at least 24h notice before they want to come visit, you’re under no obligation to accommodate their wishes and can arbitrarily sever their access to the property. [/i]
So does this still apply in this situation ?
Edited by chopper602 on Monday 21st October 13:11
Edited by chopper602 on Monday 21st October 13:12
chopper602 said:
Wonder if someone could shine some light on this. #1 son is in second year at university and moved into a shared rented house with 4 others. The mother of one of the residents owns the house and bought it when her son started uni, with some inheritance. No idea if she intends to sell it when he finishes.
My son has mentioned to me, that the landlord keeps calling round with the pretense of visiting her son. But as the landlord, is she allowed to do this ?
From a quick google : [i] Section 11 from the Landlord And Tenant Act 1985 states:
In a lease in which the lessor’s repairing covenant is implied there is also implied a covenant by the lessee that the lessor, or any person authorised by him in writing, may at reasonable times of the day and on giving 24 hours’ notice in writing to the occupier, enter the premises comprised in the lease for the purpose of viewing their condition and state of repair.
This means that unless your landlord or their letting agent has served you with at least 24h notice before they want to come visit, you’re under no obligation to accommodate their wishes and can arbitrarily sever their access to the property. [/i]
So does this still apply in this situation ?
This is true but she is his mother and has a right to attend and see him as a visitor. Not to inspect the house or view the non communal areas. What does his tenancy say about visitors?My son has mentioned to me, that the landlord keeps calling round with the pretense of visiting her son. But as the landlord, is she allowed to do this ?
From a quick google : [i] Section 11 from the Landlord And Tenant Act 1985 states:
In a lease in which the lessor’s repairing covenant is implied there is also implied a covenant by the lessee that the lessor, or any person authorised by him in writing, may at reasonable times of the day and on giving 24 hours’ notice in writing to the occupier, enter the premises comprised in the lease for the purpose of viewing their condition and state of repair.
This means that unless your landlord or their letting agent has served you with at least 24h notice before they want to come visit, you’re under no obligation to accommodate their wishes and can arbitrarily sever their access to the property. [/i]
So does this still apply in this situation ?
Edited by chopper602 on Monday 21st October 13:11
Edited by chopper602 on Monday 21st October 13:12
She should not conduct any inspections and only be in the property when her son is there if she is there as his 'mother' otherwise I would construe this as 'landlord visiting without notice' and therefore she has breached the tenancy.
However what is the issue with her seeing her son? She is allowed to be a landlord and a mother but this had muddied the waters somewhat.;
If she was action like a landlord and conducting her landlords inspections/rent collection etc on the visits then maybe she needs a word.
However unless your son wants to move I wouldn't go making trouble.
garyhun said:
What sort of rental agreement has been signed?
And as above, are these visits to the son, inspections, something else?
We need more information.
Seems he's over-egged it to me. She gives a couple of days notice via Facebook messenger and then stays for ½ hour or so and inspects the common areas. As far as he knows, his room hasn't been inspected.Comes around every two weeks or so . . . And as above, are these visits to the son, inspections, something else?
We need more information.
I wonder if he's unhappy because they are having to keep the place tidy & do horrible & unnatural things like cleaning up after themselves & washing up?
The state of the property my eldest shared with 4 other lads at uni in his 2nd year would have been dramatically improved by the application of several hand grenades & going on the unwashed plates/cutlery/pots & pans & the accumulation of grease all over the cooking facilities I'm amazed they didn't all die of food poisoning.
The state of the property my eldest shared with 4 other lads at uni in his 2nd year would have been dramatically improved by the application of several hand grenades & going on the unwashed plates/cutlery/pots & pans & the accumulation of grease all over the cooking facilities I'm amazed they didn't all die of food poisoning.
paintman said:
I wonder if he's unhappy because they are having to keep the place tidy & do horrible & unnatural things like cleaning up after themselves & washing up?
The state of the property my eldest shared with 4 other lads at uni in his 2nd year would have been dramatically improved by the application of several hand grenades & going on the unwashed plates/cutlery/pots & pans & the accumulation of grease all over the cooking facilities I'm amazed they didn't all die of food poisoning.
Modern house - they have a dishwasher !The state of the property my eldest shared with 4 other lads at uni in his 2nd year would have been dramatically improved by the application of several hand grenades & going on the unwashed plates/cutlery/pots & pans & the accumulation of grease all over the cooking facilities I'm amazed they didn't all die of food poisoning.
We're going to see him at the weekend and apparently I have to take the MiL too, so she'll be through the kitchen if it's the slightest bit dirty.
paintman said:
The state of the property my eldest shared with 4 other lads at uni in his 2nd year would have been dramatically improved by the application of several hand grenades & going on the unwashed plates/cutlery/pots & pans & the accumulation of grease all over the cooking facilities I'm amazed they didn't all die of food poisoning.
TADTSI remember one of my uni housemates parents visiting us for a weekend. We took a week off lectures to clean the place and his mum was still disgusted at the state of the place.
Wacky Racer said:
The state of my three lads houses when they were at Uni...….Being a student landlord?......no thanks 
Don't need to visit a student house, the horror stories on the telly do the job on their own.There are loads of student let houses round my way. this tells me there must be tons of landlords who love having their houses trashed!
One house I rented "used" to be a student let. I still wonder what put the landlord off letting out to students!!!
Ahh... student houses
The first student house I lived in didn't have a kitchen bin (last lot knicked or broke it, landlord wouldn't replace)
So we just used the spot in the kitchen to throw rubbish at, and every now and then one of us would scrape it up.
Another guy dropped a hot grill pan,spilling grease over the floor. I think it only got cleaned in the final term when a guy's mum and girlfriend came to visit.
My parents refused to enter in. They had a camper van, and parked it on the front and preferred to carry out their ablutions in full view of everyone commuting on the A4 rather than enter our house. They really were quite self sufficient, unlike us.
And the highlight: my 15 stone mate slipped over in the shower...a known side effect of polishing off 1 litre of JD apparently.
Whilst the radiator took the brunt of his teeth (splitting one in half) his foot left a sized 10 hole in the grp bath.
I did the only sensible thing and gaffa taped a plastic bag over the hole. To my credit, it was still water tight when we moved out.
The landlady was a gouging piece of work though..they rented every room out (so no lounge etc), the place was filthy when we moved in (rotting clothes screwn on the utility room floor) and even a shack mounted on the kitchen rented as an extra bedroom that would have been shamed by most rabbit runs in pets at home.
We had delegated inspecting the house to a female equivalent of Neil from young ones.
Life lesson..never trust a vegetarian.
The first student house I lived in didn't have a kitchen bin (last lot knicked or broke it, landlord wouldn't replace)
So we just used the spot in the kitchen to throw rubbish at, and every now and then one of us would scrape it up.
Another guy dropped a hot grill pan,spilling grease over the floor. I think it only got cleaned in the final term when a guy's mum and girlfriend came to visit.
My parents refused to enter in. They had a camper van, and parked it on the front and preferred to carry out their ablutions in full view of everyone commuting on the A4 rather than enter our house. They really were quite self sufficient, unlike us.
And the highlight: my 15 stone mate slipped over in the shower...a known side effect of polishing off 1 litre of JD apparently.
Whilst the radiator took the brunt of his teeth (splitting one in half) his foot left a sized 10 hole in the grp bath.
I did the only sensible thing and gaffa taped a plastic bag over the hole. To my credit, it was still water tight when we moved out.
The landlady was a gouging piece of work though..they rented every room out (so no lounge etc), the place was filthy when we moved in (rotting clothes screwn on the utility room floor) and even a shack mounted on the kitchen rented as an extra bedroom that would have been shamed by most rabbit runs in pets at home.
We had delegated inspecting the house to a female equivalent of Neil from young ones.
Life lesson..never trust a vegetarian.
Perhaps not the right way to think about it, but, if she’s a good landlord I’d turn a bit of a blind eye, given she’s the mother of one of the others, because a good landlord is worth their weight in gold. Not sure if things have been tightened up, but when I was at uni there were some horror stories.
Ian Geary said:
Ahh... student houses
The first student house I lived in didn't have a kitchen bin (last lot knicked or broke it, landlord wouldn't replace)
So we just used the spot in the kitchen to throw rubbish at, and every now and then one of us would scrape it up.
Another guy dropped a hot grill pan,spilling grease over the floor. I think it only got cleaned in the final term when a guy's mum and girlfriend came to visit.
My parents refused to enter in. They had a camper van, and parked it on the front and preferred to carry out their ablutions in full view of everyone commuting on the A4 rather than enter our house. They really were quite self sufficient, unlike us.
And the highlight: my 15 stone mate slipped over in the shower...a known side effect of polishing off 1 litre of JD apparently.
Whilst the radiator took the brunt of his teeth (splitting one in half) his foot left a sized 10 hole in the grp bath.
I did the only sensible thing and gaffa taped a plastic bag over the hole. To my credit, it was still water tight when we moved out.
The landlady was a gouging piece of work though..they rented every room out (so no lounge etc), the place was filthy when we moved in (rotting clothes screwn on the utility room floor) and even a shack mounted on the kitchen rented as an extra bedroom that would have been shamed by most rabbit runs in pets at home.
We had delegated inspecting the house to a female equivalent of Neil from young ones.
Life lesson..never trust a vegetarian.
Awesome :-))The first student house I lived in didn't have a kitchen bin (last lot knicked or broke it, landlord wouldn't replace)
So we just used the spot in the kitchen to throw rubbish at, and every now and then one of us would scrape it up.
Another guy dropped a hot grill pan,spilling grease over the floor. I think it only got cleaned in the final term when a guy's mum and girlfriend came to visit.
My parents refused to enter in. They had a camper van, and parked it on the front and preferred to carry out their ablutions in full view of everyone commuting on the A4 rather than enter our house. They really were quite self sufficient, unlike us.
And the highlight: my 15 stone mate slipped over in the shower...a known side effect of polishing off 1 litre of JD apparently.
Whilst the radiator took the brunt of his teeth (splitting one in half) his foot left a sized 10 hole in the grp bath.
I did the only sensible thing and gaffa taped a plastic bag over the hole. To my credit, it was still water tight when we moved out.
The landlady was a gouging piece of work though..they rented every room out (so no lounge etc), the place was filthy when we moved in (rotting clothes screwn on the utility room floor) and even a shack mounted on the kitchen rented as an extra bedroom that would have been shamed by most rabbit runs in pets at home.
We had delegated inspecting the house to a female equivalent of Neil from young ones.
Life lesson..never trust a vegetarian.
surveyor said:
If op son does not like it I suggest that mothers son needs to be persuaded and politely point out that she is making him look maybe a little pathetic and could she do less landlord inspections.
Trouble is that we have no idea what the rental agreement is! That said, coming over every 2 weeks is excessive on face value.Edited by anonymous-user on Tuesday 22 October 13:57
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