Met screws up again

[davidball]

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/0...

More tax payer money could go in compensation for false imprisonment.

Will anyone be held accountable?

[borcy]

Still looks like there could be an appeal, so might be some time before all this plays out. But yes it does look very embarrassing for the police.

[Drumroll]

Here we go again, the man who lives in Belgium in another UK police bashing thread.

[Gargamel]

davidball said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/0...

More tax payer money could go in compensation for false imprisonment.

Will anyone be held accountable?

Given that ER folks are briefed to refuse bail (so as to overwhelm police custody places) its a bit rich to then claim false imprisonment...

Anyway, all looks a bit of an academic argument about whether lots of small demonstrations are the equivalent of one big one.

Police were asked to minimize disruption and the did, given policing in total for ER ‘events’ is running at nearly 30m in costs another 1m on a bit of compo doesn’t look that bad.

[Chris32345]

This country's a joke
Those lot should be serving time in prison
Especially the man who claimed in top of the train

[RBS Bob]

Next time they protest just get in the residents of Canning Town to clear the streets.

[vaud]

davidball said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/0...

More tax payer money could go in compensation for false imprisonment.

Will anyone be held accountable?

It's a free forum, etc but I am curious as to your particular interest in the police and their various failings... it does seem to be your primary interest in posting on this forum.

Have you had a bad experience?

[Mike335i]

vaud said:

davidball said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/0...

More tax payer money could go in compensation for false imprisonment.

Will anyone be held accountable?

It's a free forum, etc but I am curious as to your particular interest in the police and their various failings... it does seem to be your primary interest in posting on this forum.

Have you had a bad experience?

Indeed, especially for someone who doesn't even live in the UK.

[anonymous-user]

vaud said:

davidball said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/0...

More tax payer money could go in compensation for false imprisonment.

Will anyone be held accountable?

It's a free forum, etc but I am curious as to your particular interest in the police and their various failings... it does seem to be your primary interest in posting on this forum.

Have you had a bad experience?

! Of course he’s had a bad experience. He lives in Belgium, FFS!

[anonymous-user]

Chris32345 said:

This country's a joke
Those lot should be serving time in prison
Especially the man who claimed in top of the train

That sounds suitably tweedy retired Colonel in a golf club, but would you really like to see everyone who attended the protest jailed? Would that apply to all protests?

[anonymous-user]

I have not yet seen the judgment, but reports of it suggest that the case turned on whether several protests in different locations could be treated as one public assembly for the purposes of the legislation relied on by the police. I shall try to get hold of a copy of the judgment later today and post a link to it here.

[anonymous-user]

The judgment -

https://www.judiciary.uk/judgments/baroness-jenny-...

[markyb_lcy]

Chris32345 said:

This country's a joke
Those lot should be serving time in prison
Especially the man who claimed in top of the train

Can we throw people in jail who can’t use punctuation and grammar too, then, while we’re at it?

[singlecoil]

vaud said:

davidball said:

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/nov/0...

More tax payer money could go in compensation for false imprisonment.

Will anyone be held accountable?

It's a free forum, etc but I am curious as to your particular interest in the police and their various failings... it does seem to be your primary interest in posting on this forum.

Have you had a bad experience?

He was turned down when he applied to join, and he's never got over it. IMO the recruiters did the right thing.

[4rephill]

markyb_lcy said:

Can we throw people in jail who can’t use punctuation and grammar too, then, while we’re at it?

[anonymous-user]

It is odd to be a single issue loony and troll. I try hard to be a loony and troll on every conceivable issue, and encourage everyone to do likewise. It is the PH way.

As for the judgment, it was predictable and on a very quick read through it appears to be to be a correct reading of the Statute.

The Police had a tough decision to make in tricky circumstances. They made the wrong decision. That does not make them dheads.

The protesters have a position. Some disagree with that position and some with the methods. Again this does not make all of the protesters dheads.

Edited by anonymous-user on Friday 8th November 20:51

[mac96]

markyb_lcy said:

Chris32345 said:

This country's a joke
Those lot should be serving time in prison
Especially the man who claimed in top of the train

Can we throw people in jail who can’t use punctuation and grammar too, then, while we’re at it?

Perhaps just a suspended sentence, or a fine if it is the first offence?

[mac96]

Breadvan72 said:

It is odd to be a single issue loony and troll. I try hard to be a loony and troll on every conceivable issue, and encourage everyone to do likewise. It is the PH way.

As for the judgment, it was predictable and on a very quick read through it appears to be to be a a correct reading of the Statute.

The Police had a tough decision to make in tricky circumstances. They made the wrong decision. That does not make them dheads.

The protesters have a position. Some disagree with that position and some with the methods. Again this does not make all of the protesters dheads.

And, the organisers of the protest set it up deliberately in a way to try to avoid breaking the letter of the law whilst causing maximum disruption, with the intent of making the police position as hard as possible. Those organisers got what they wanted so it is fairly clear who the dheads were.

A pity any damages they may end up being awarded cannot be offset against the costs their actions, legal and illegal, imposed upon the rest of us.

[anonymous-user]

Chris32345 said:

This country's a joke
Those lot should be serving time in prison
Especially the man who claimed in top of the train

I think the instant justice handed out by those inconvenienced was interesting, maybe the way forward in some form.

[davidball]

REALIST123 said:

! Of course he’s had a bad experience. He lives in Belgium, FFS!

Belgium makes the best beer in the world and has great restaurants at reasonable prices. The Flemish are a very civilized people and their political system is very pragmatic (it went a year without a government and managed very well). Flanders TV provides about 80 European channels including 4 from the BBC that I do not have to pay a license for. There is very little public intoxication and very little violence.

Belgium's education system is vastly superior to the UK. Most children leave school speaking Dutch , French, English, German and many have Spanish too. My children who went to UK universities cost me on average 33k tuition costs each. In Belgium a university education is free.

Belgium's central location means that 4 other countries are within a 2 hour drive and its motorways are better maintained than UK ones.

Flanders is a wonderful place to live and work. 50% of my working life was in Belgium and the rest in the UK. My Belgian state pension is twice that of my UK pension. I pay UK tax on my UK income so feel entitled to comment on the cavalier manner the police treat the tax cash cow.

I have never had a hankering to join the police, though whilst at University I did study the mindset and values of people who do.