Private Parking "invoice" pay or ignore?
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Been sent 2 letters (now on "final warning") for a parking fine, for over staying the allowed time in a car park by 20 minutes. I have used this car park for years and had no idea there was a time limit!
I have since been back and checked for signs. There are multiple signs however they aren't very big and there is also multiple entrances and exits to the car park, and the route I always use means you end up facing the back of the signs.
Any advise on what to do? They are threatening to send debt collectors etc.. and the fine is £100.
I was thinking of going back to the shops I visited and seeing if they could do anything, I've heard this has worked in the past for some people. Whilst parked there I was only using shops on the retail park, I did not go anywhere else.
I have since been back and checked for signs. There are multiple signs however they aren't very big and there is also multiple entrances and exits to the car park, and the route I always use means you end up facing the back of the signs.
Any advise on what to do? They are threatening to send debt collectors etc.. and the fine is £100.
I was thinking of going back to the shops I visited and seeing if they could do anything, I've heard this has worked in the past for some people. Whilst parked there I was only using shops on the retail park, I did not go anywhere else.
Declare yourself a natural straw man, issue a bill of lading under Maritime law, file several disclaimers of fieri facias under the UNCITRAL Code, and be sure not to stand under. You are now the King of the Kingdom of You (Population: one), and anyone who looks at you in a funny way has to pay you ONE MILLION GOLD SOVEREIGNS.
Or: wait until S11Steve pops up, and whatever he suggests, do that.
Or: wait until S11Steve pops up, and whatever he suggests, do that.
If you have a receipt or any proof of purchase for any of the shops at the time, then the store manager will be able to get it quashed. They may put up a bit of an objection saying they can't, but tell them it's no different to white listing staff or delivery registrations with the retail park management company or even direct to the parking company.
It's often the easiest way to make them go away.
Otherwise, if you can PM me a copy or details of the letters you've received, I can draft you a reply for both the debt collector and parking company.
At this stage if it is already with debt collectors, there's a significantly reduced chance of it ever going anywhere near court. Pointing out the right flaws in their compliance with either the legislation or their code of practice should kill it off.
The next 30 posts will argue about your guilt!
It's often the easiest way to make them go away.
Otherwise, if you can PM me a copy or details of the letters you've received, I can draft you a reply for both the debt collector and parking company.
At this stage if it is already with debt collectors, there's a significantly reduced chance of it ever going anywhere near court. Pointing out the right flaws in their compliance with either the legislation or their code of practice should kill it off.
The next 30 posts will argue about your guilt!
s91 said:
Anyone else able to add anything? I'm considering just paying it because I don't want the hassle but at the same time don't see why I should pay £100 due to poor signage.
Is your principle defence is that in all the years you have driven through this car park and walked its length to all the places of business, no signage was ever visible.If you truly wish to have the charge quashed, you should pretend that you were using for the first time. Morally wrong, but the alternative is that signage elsewhere in the car park was visible.
Kuji said:
Is your principle defence is that in all the years you have driven through this car park and walked its length to all the places of business, no signage was ever visible.
If you truly wish to have the charge quashed, you should pretend that you were using for the first time. Morally wrong, but the alternative is that signage elsewhere in the car park was visible.
Visible signs, and signs legible enough to form a contract are two separate issues.If you truly wish to have the charge quashed, you should pretend that you were using for the first time. Morally wrong, but the alternative is that signage elsewhere in the car park was visible.
OP, my suggestion is that S11Steve (if he has time, he's a busy bloke) is likely to give you all the guidance you need. Try peepipoo if you like, but you may perhaps have to wade through some FOTLverse stuff there, whereas Steve will more likely suggest in clear terms the easiest way to climb the hill.
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