Breathalyzer Advice from Plod Please
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Hi,
My next door neighbour is about to take up a job in the airline industry and her contract has a zero alcohol policy. She wants a good Breathalyzer and I said I would ask the plod on here if they had any ideas for a good one?? She is quite partial to a good drink so wants to make sure she is booze free the morning after.
Thanks in advance
My next door neighbour is about to take up a job in the airline industry and her contract has a zero alcohol policy. She wants a good Breathalyzer and I said I would ask the plod on here if they had any ideas for a good one?? She is quite partial to a good drink so wants to make sure she is booze free the morning after.
Thanks in advance
from an earlier post..........
Just spoken to Lion, and their new roadside device called 'the 500' comes in at £498 + delivery + VAT.
Comes with mouthpieces, calibration spray, and batteries!
Very nice woman on the phone, quite happy to sell to the general public, but stress that only their big all singing all dancing machine is completely accurate (and can be used in evidence). This is a non evidential machine, but pretty damn accurate.
Thick end of £600 anyone?
Give Lion a call, they have a website!
Just spoken to Lion, and their new roadside device called 'the 500' comes in at £498 + delivery + VAT.
Comes with mouthpieces, calibration spray, and batteries!
Very nice woman on the phone, quite happy to sell to the general public, but stress that only their big all singing all dancing machine is completely accurate (and can be used in evidence). This is a non evidential machine, but pretty damn accurate.
Thick end of £600 anyone?
Give Lion a call, they have a website!
bryan35 said:
from an earlier post..........
Just spoken to Lion, and their new roadside device called 'the 500' comes in at £498 + delivery + VAT.
Comes with mouthpieces, calibration spray, and batteries!
Very nice woman on the phone, quite happy to sell to the general public, but stress that only their big all singing all dancing machine is completely accurate (and can be used in evidence). This is a non evidential machine, but pretty damn accurate.
Thick end of £600 anyone?
Give Lion a call, they have a website!
Bit pricey - she is looking to spend around £50 - £100 I think.
We use lion SL400 in TVP. It will only indicate a pass, warn or fail. The big machine they are talking about will tell you the exact levels of alcohol in the breath.
Cheap machines are just that. they are non accurate and really are for an indication and not reliable enough to provide anything id rely on if i wanted one.
Best bet i guess is to stay off the booze the night before???
Cheap machines are just that. they are non accurate and really are for an indication and not reliable enough to provide anything id rely on if i wanted one.
Best bet i guess is to stay off the booze the night before???
jezzaaa said:
Blimey - a bit harsh Volvo?? Everyone's entitled to have a drink, and she sounds like she's very sensibly making sure she isn't penalised. Good on her.
Maybe - But who in their right mind these days goes out for a major session if they have work the next morning (especially when work has a zero alcohol policy)
Sorry - she is asking for trouble - by all means go out on the pi55 - just not on a school night.
volvos70t5 said:
Blimey - a bit harsh Volvo?? Everyone's entitled to have a drink, and she sounds like she's very sensibly making sure she isn't penalised. Good on her.
Maybe - But who in their right mind these days goes out for a major session if they have work the next morning (especially when work has a zero alcohol policy)
Sorry - she is asking for trouble - by all means go out on the pi55 - just not on a school night.
You don't need to go on the piss to be over the next day. 3 large glasses of wine for a woman is likely to put them over the limit the next day (takes 10 hours to get back to zero basd on 13% wine) so you can see how a few harmless glasses of wine can be a big problem.
Even that isn't accurate. 3 large glasses of wine may or may not still be in your system the next day depending on whether or not you have eating before, with it or after it. How much you ate, over how long you spread the glasses of wine (did you spread them over the whole evening or throw them down your neck in half an hour) and the individuals metabolism. Far too many variables.
I got pulled late at night a few days before Christmas a couple of years ago (must have been longer than that, it was a Trafpol and not a scamera). After a gentle reminder of the speed limit, I was asked (in view of the fact that I had admitted a moving traffic offence and the time of day and time of year) to give a breath sample. I'd had a beer earlier in the evening with a meal but the breathalyser showed a green light showing no alcohol. Plod actually commented that the one big problem with a zero limit is that nobody can be sure how long you would have to wait before you were totally clear.
I got pulled late at night a few days before Christmas a couple of years ago (must have been longer than that, it was a Trafpol and not a scamera). After a gentle reminder of the speed limit, I was asked (in view of the fact that I had admitted a moving traffic offence and the time of day and time of year) to give a breath sample. I'd had a beer earlier in the evening with a meal but the breathalyser showed a green light showing no alcohol. Plod actually commented that the one big problem with a zero limit is that nobody can be sure how long you would have to wait before you were totally clear.
darrent said:
You don't need to go on the piss to be over the next day. 3 large glasses of wine for a woman is likely to put them over the limit the next day (takes 10 hours to get back to zero basd on 13% wine) so you can see how a few harmless glasses of wine can be a big problem.
You/she where not asking about being 'over' (the driving limit, I guess?) but about zero tolerance.
If they apply the rules as per pilots the level is a *lot* lower than for driving (I *think* it's like a tenth of the driving level?).
gilbertd said:
Even that isn't accurate. 3 large glasses of wine may or may not still be in your system the next day depending on whether or not you have eating before, with it or after it. How much you ate, over how long you spread the glasses of wine (did you spread them over the whole evening or throw them down your neck in half an hour) and the individuals metabolism. Far too many variables.
Totally incorrect! Fairy stories like these are why people get caught drink driving. The amount of alcohol in your blood is dependant on one thing - your alcohol blood level - food, sleep and the rest of the stories make no difference. Your liver can process 1 unit of alcohol per hour regardless whether you have eaten, drank 10 pints of water with it or anything else you care to mention.
darrent said:
Even that isn't accurate. 3 large glasses of wine may or may not still be in your system the next day depending on whether or not you have eating before, with it or after it. How much you ate, over how long you spread the glasses of wine (did you spread them over the whole evening or throw them down your neck in half an hour) and the individuals metabolism. Far too many variables.
Totally incorrect! Fairy stories like these are why people get caught drink driving. The amount of alcohol in your blood is dependant on one thing - your alcohol blood level - food, sleep and the rest of the stories make no difference. Your liver can process 1 unit of alcohol per hour regardless whether you have eaten, drank 10 pints of water with it or anything else you care to mention.
Darren, you are partially correct, however, the speed the alcohol is absorbed into the bloodstream does depend on what you have eaten, therefore the liver cannot start processing it until it is absorbed.
The legislation relates not only to aircrew (ie pilots, copilots, flight engineers), but also to cabin crew, control tower crew, ground engineers - basically anyone with ANY responsibility for the safety of the aircraft and its passengers.
From memory (and I am prepared to be corrected), I think the limit is 7 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath - the limit for drivers is 35ug/100ml.
>> Edited by Dibble on Monday 6th June 21:26
From memory (and I am prepared to be corrected), I think the limit is 7 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath - the limit for drivers is 35ug/100ml.
>> Edited by Dibble on Monday 6th June 21:26
Dibble said:
From memory (and I am prepared to be corrected), I think the limit is 7 microgrammes of alcohol per 100 millilitres of breath - the limit for drivers is 35ug/100ml.
Ooh, close - looks like it's 9 microgrammes:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/4073837.stm
darrent said:
Even that isn't accurate. 3 large glasses of wine may or may not still be in your system the next day depending on whether or not you have eating before, with it or after it. How much you ate, over how long you spread the glasses of wine (did you spread them over the whole evening or throw them down your neck in half an hour) and the individuals metabolism. Far too many variables.
Totally incorrect! Fairy stories like these are why people get caught drink driving. The amount of alcohol in your blood is dependant on one thing - your alcohol blood level - food, sleep and the rest of the stories make no difference. Your liver can process 1 unit of alcohol per hour regardless whether you have eaten, drank 10 pints of water with it or anything else you care to mention.
Sorry Dazrent, but complete blox. There has been an awful lot of research in this area, and it does not support your statement.
Just a clue. Why do you think your liver can process 1 unit per hour? What? any adult human processes alcohol at precisely 1 unit per hour? So a 20 stone rugby player will only match that of a 7 stone woman? Give me a break.
Also, why do you think its only the liver processing alcohol? Ever heard of alcohol dehydrogenase?
volvos70t5 said:
What will she do if she isn't booze free the next morning? Phone in sick? So either she'll get a reputation of being a bit of a plonky or a bit of a sick-note collector.
Maybe she should get a life and knock the booze on the head full stop.
Couldn't agree more. If people can't resist having a drink then maybe they need some professional help..just don't drink the night before work!.
easy.
You'd have to really go some on Saturday night to still have alcohol in your system on Monday morning.
What would that be, if you were up at 7 monday morning then you'd have to have at least 15 pints in your system at 1am Sunday morning (sat night).
If you'd started drinking at 7 saturday night you'd have had to have drunk 18 pints by 1am - at least!
easy.
You'd have to really go some on Saturday night to still have alcohol in your system on Monday morning.
What would that be, if you were up at 7 monday morning then you'd have to have at least 15 pints in your system at 1am Sunday morning (sat night).
If you'd started drinking at 7 saturday night you'd have had to have drunk 18 pints by 1am - at least!
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