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Digby

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Wednesday 27th November 2019
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There used to be an old style gatso here which they would spin around from time to time and you can still see faded lines the other side of the camera. Since the new digital gatso went in, they have lines on both lanes, but dead opposite each other. Is it just to make people slow down going towards the camera (even though it won't flash them) or is it likely another camera would going up at some point? They are taking their time if that's the case.


rdjohn

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224 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Unlike the film version, these cameras are active 24/7.

Recording the speed in both directions was possible with the old ones. As a camera was not always in the box, and it needed someone to retrieve the film quickly when it had one, it was not a big issue to swing the arm around

These are more a fire-and-forget solution.

Keoparakolo

987 posts

83 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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These gatsos and the old ones can only catch you from the rear ie as you pass it and it photographs the back of your car. Neither model can do you as you approach it front facing.

The lines on the other side are either to trick people into thinking they can catch you, or to ensure that there’s no way to trick the speed measure by driving down the other lane when passing it.

jm doc

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261 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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It's to catch people who are speeding whilst overtaking

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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rdjohn said:
Recording the speed in both directions was possible with the old ones.
Are you 100% on that? We used to trigger the one facing us in S London for fun as we new it couldn't catch speed facing on and never got a ticket in 4 years of doing it 2-3 times a week

rdjohn

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Thursday 28th November 2019
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Keoparakolo said:
These gatsos and the old ones can only catch you from the rear ie as you pass it and it photographs the back of your car. Neither model can do you as you approach it front facing.

The lines on the other side are either to trick people into thinking they can catch you, or to ensure that there’s no way to trick the speed measure by driving down the other lane when passing it.
Unfortunately there is no detail on line, only the type approval for the type 24+ AUS - which says nothing relevant as to vehicle direction of travel.

In the late 90s I was consulting for a local authority. It was not my project but I recall an instance where a councillor wanted the camera to detect in both directions. At that time, the Police offered assurance that the direction was switchable on the radar unit. Markings were laid to facilitate that - everyone seemed to be happy. The Home Office may have changed later approvals to prevent that.

Like most locations, no extra camera was bought, only about 1 in 10 sites were active at any time, the rest only had dummy flashers. It has always been the case that a rear facing camera could flash when a speeding vehicle was detected and affect a driver approaching in the opposite direction The flashing during daylight was intended to be a deterrent, as I mentioned, most were dummy units.

Keoparakolo

987 posts

83 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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rdjohn said:
Unfortunately there is no detail on line, only the type approval for the type 24+ AUS - which says nothing relevant as to vehicle direction of travel.

In the late 90s I was consulting for a local authority. It was not my project but I recall an instance where a councillor wanted the camera to detect in both directions. At that time, the Police offered assurance that the direction was switchable on the radar unit. Markings were laid to facilitate that - everyone seemed to be happy. The Home Office may have changed later approvals to prevent that.

Like most locations, no extra camera was bought, only about 1 in 10 sites were active at any time, the rest only had dummy flashers. It has always been the case that a rear facing camera could flash when a speeding vehicle was detected and affect a driver approaching in the opposite direction The flashing during daylight was intended to be a deterrent, as I mentioned, most were dummy units.
I have two of these on my trip to the local superstore when I’m in the UK. Neither have ever flashed me when driving towards them despite doing it well over the limit. As said by others, I’ve done this since the dawn of Gatsos and never had a flash, or received a ticket. I know truvelos were forward facing, but they didn’t flash, or did so in a way that wouldn’t blind you. The issue has always been about being flashed face on and the potential impact that could have.

mygoldfishbowl

4,285 posts

172 months

Thursday 28th November 2019
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Keoparakolo said:
I have two of these on my trip to the local superstore when I’m in the UK. Neither have ever flashed me when driving towards them despite doing it well over the limit. As said by others, I’ve done this since the dawn of Gatsos and never had a flash, or received a ticket. I know truvelos were forward facing, but they didn’t flash, or did so in a way that wouldn’t blind you. The issue has always been about being flashed face on and the potential impact that could have.
I was convicted by one of these some time ago and it didn't flash. Maybe they have a light sensor so only flash when they need to. Also it's a bit of an urban stiff saying truvelos didn't flash, they did very brightly.

Digby

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Thursday 28th November 2019
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Keoparakolo said:
These gatsos and the old ones can only catch you from the rear ie as you pass it and it photographs the back of your car. Neither model can do you as you approach it front facing.

The lines on the other side are either to trick people into thinking they can catch you, or to ensure that there’s no way to trick the speed measure by driving down the other lane when passing it.
That would make sense. Thanks all.

Digby

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Thursday 28th November 2019
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anonymous said:
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He means they could spin the camera around which you can't do with these it seems.

I remember a camera facing you as you went towards the Blackwall that would flash at you. One night, it seemed to have a mental breakdown as it was flashing every few seconds over and over! hehe