Sick of the s**t standard of driving on our local road
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After the fifth crash in 18 months, I'm officially sick of the p*ss poor, dangerous and downright f
king stupid standard of driving on our local road. It's a 30 mph residential road and I regularly witness high speed, stupid overtakes and recently, another crash (which involved a van ploughing along the pavement and wiping out a telegraph pole).
It's got so bad now that the local school will not walk the children to church for services anymore. They did a service for harvest and whilst the kids were being walked to school, some moron managed to run somebody over. The council have even stopped replacing the street lights. One was knocked down on a corner, they replaced it, it was knocked down again so they have left it now.
Question is, who do I speak to about this? I've tried the local councillor. She is useless and said speak to the police. I tried the police. They said speak to the local councillor.
Anyone had any luck with getting anyone to listen about issues such as this?
Cheers all.
If anyone wants to know the road, it's the B1356 that runs from Spalding to Pinchbeck.
king stupid standard of driving on our local road. It's a 30 mph residential road and I regularly witness high speed, stupid overtakes and recently, another crash (which involved a van ploughing along the pavement and wiping out a telegraph pole).It's got so bad now that the local school will not walk the children to church for services anymore. They did a service for harvest and whilst the kids were being walked to school, some moron managed to run somebody over. The council have even stopped replacing the street lights. One was knocked down on a corner, they replaced it, it was knocked down again so they have left it now.
Question is, who do I speak to about this? I've tried the local councillor. She is useless and said speak to the police. I tried the police. They said speak to the local councillor.
Anyone had any luck with getting anyone to listen about issues such as this?
Cheers all.
If anyone wants to know the road, it's the B1356 that runs from Spalding to Pinchbeck.
I would say it's a council/ highways issue ultimately. Whilst the Police could setup on a temporary basis speed checks etc that's not going to be a long term solution. I haven't looked at the road on google maps but it sounds like some kind of traffic measures need putting in place which sits with Council/ Highways, also sounds like you need a better informed local councillor
Jamescrs said:
I would say it's a council/ highways issue ultimately. Whilst the Police could setup on a temporary basis speed checks etc that's not going to be a long term solution. I haven't looked at the road on google maps but it sounds like some kind of traffic measures need putting in place which sits with Council/ Highways, also sounds like you need a better informed local councillor
Thanks.Will speak to highways.
Local councillor was voted back in a few months ago so I'm stuck with her.
funkyrobot said:
After the fifth crash in 18 months, I'm officially sick of the p*ss poor, dangerous and downright fking stupid standard of driving on our local road. It's a 30 mph residential road and I regularly witness high speed, stupid overtakes and recently, another crash (which involved a van ploughing along the pavement and wiping out a telegraph pole).
It's got so bad now that the local school will not walk the children to church for services anymore. They did a service for harvest and whilst the kids were being walked to school, some moron managed to run somebody over. The council have even stopped replacing the street lights. One was knocked down on a corner, they replaced it, it was knocked down again so they have left it now.
Question is, who do I speak to about this? I've tried the local councillor. She is useless and said speak to the police. I tried the police. They said speak to the local councillor.
Anyone had any luck with getting anyone to listen about issues such as this?
Cheers all.
If anyone wants to know the road, it's the B1356 that runs from Spalding to Pinchbeck.
Your problem will be getting any one with access to a budget to take it seriously until you have at least one fatality. Many communities have very similar problems, so the queue will be a long one.king stupid standard of driving on our local road. It's a 30 mph residential road and I regularly witness high speed, stupid overtakes and recently, another crash (which involved a van ploughing along the pavement and wiping out a telegraph pole).It's got so bad now that the local school will not walk the children to church for services anymore. They did a service for harvest and whilst the kids were being walked to school, some moron managed to run somebody over. The council have even stopped replacing the street lights. One was knocked down on a corner, they replaced it, it was knocked down again so they have left it now.
Question is, who do I speak to about this? I've tried the local councillor. She is useless and said speak to the police. I tried the police. They said speak to the local councillor.
Anyone had any luck with getting anyone to listen about issues such as this?
Cheers all.
If anyone wants to know the road, it's the B1356 that runs from Spalding to Pinchbeck.
That said, the more people who campaign to get something sorted, the better. Start with parish then district and or county councils, then MP.
eldar said:
Your problem will be getting any one with access to a budget to take it seriously until you have at least one fatality. Many communities have very similar problems, so the queue will be a long one.
That said, the more people who campaign to get something sorted, the better. Start with parish then district and or county councils, then MP.
Thanks. Yes, it's sad that it will take someone being killed for anything to get done.That said, the more people who campaign to get something sorted, the better. Start with parish then district and or county councils, then MP.
Will try the options you have mentioned.
funkyrobot said:
Thanks. Yes, it's sad that it will take someone being killed for anything to get done.
Will try the options you have mentioned.
The problems are likely to be...Will try the options you have mentioned.
Getting the police to enforce limits, they are seriously under resourced for occasional speed monitoring.
Road improvements are hideously expensive, even what seem like trivial improvements run in to six figure amounts.
Apathy. Most people won’t give a toss. Where I used to live ‘everybody’ complained about traffic volumes and speed. The local council came up with 2 proposals, and balloted the residents with a choice of option A or B or C, leave it as is. 20% turnout, and leave it as it is won.
Didn’t stop the complaining....
eybic said:
Our local neighbourhood policing team are always asking for people to take part in community speed watch type things, perhaps that would work as they never know when it'll be active but the signs are there all the time.
Bizarrely, I was stood at the side of the road last week waiting for my wife and daughter. A lot of drivers coming around a slight bend were braking as they saw me. They must have thought I was a police officer or something. eldar said:
The problems are likely to be...
Getting the police to enforce limits, they are seriously under resourced for occasional speed monitoring.
Road improvements are hideously expensive, even what seem like trivial improvements run in to six figure amounts.
Apathy. Most people won’t give a toss. Where I used to live ‘everybody’ complained about traffic volumes and speed. The local council came up with 2 proposals, and balloted the residents with a choice of option A or B or C, leave it as is. 20% turnout, and leave it as it is won.
Didn’t stop the complaining....
A lot of people complain and don't do anything about it. I do take the time to action my complaints. Getting the police to enforce limits, they are seriously under resourced for occasional speed monitoring.
Road improvements are hideously expensive, even what seem like trivial improvements run in to six figure amounts.
Apathy. Most people won’t give a toss. Where I used to live ‘everybody’ complained about traffic volumes and speed. The local council came up with 2 proposals, and balloted the residents with a choice of option A or B or C, leave it as is. 20% turnout, and leave it as it is won.
Didn’t stop the complaining....
funkyrobot said:
eybic said:
Our local neighbourhood policing team are always asking for people to take part in community speed watch type things, perhaps that would work as they never know when it'll be active but the signs are there all the time.
Bizarrely, I was stood at the side of the road last week waiting for my wife and daughter. A lot of drivers coming around a slight bend were braking as they saw me. They must have thought I was a police officer or something. 
AndyNetwork said:
funkyrobot said:
eybic said:
Our local neighbourhood policing team are always asking for people to take part in community speed watch type things, perhaps that would work as they never know when it'll be active but the signs are there all the time.
Bizarrely, I was stood at the side of the road last week waiting for my wife and daughter. A lot of drivers coming around a slight bend were braking as they saw me. They must have thought I was a police officer or something. funkyrobot said:
Question is, who do I speak to about this? I've tried the local councillor. She is useless and said speak to the police. I tried the police. They said speak to the local councillor.
Keep on at the councillor. when she says speak to the police etc ask her who to speak to in that organisation. Ask her why she isn't prepared to do anything. When/if you get a reply consider putting it up on social media
Get other people involved.
We have recently got a a road reinstated on the council gritting route, after taking the local council "to task".
The main problem seems to be that a lot of it doesn't feel like 30. For example the curved section approaching Pinchbeck is tree-lined giving the feel of an NSL road. The section leaving Spalding north of the river is quite wide and open, which has a similar effect. The lanes also look wider than 3 meters in places which doesn't help.
Councils like cheap solutions and this usually means paint.
On-road parking bays can be useful. It narrows the carriageway even when the bays are empty. If people are parked along one or both sides, traffic wouldn't get a clear run and pedestrians would be protected from idiots mounting the pavement.
Cycle lanes can also be used for this purpose, especially mandatory ones. Even if there aren't any cyclists they are a way to paint a solid white lane along the edge of a 30mph carriageway and make it narrower. Seem to be easier to get funding for too.
Councils like cheap solutions and this usually means paint.
On-road parking bays can be useful. It narrows the carriageway even when the bays are empty. If people are parked along one or both sides, traffic wouldn't get a clear run and pedestrians would be protected from idiots mounting the pavement.
Cycle lanes can also be used for this purpose, especially mandatory ones. Even if there aren't any cyclists they are a way to paint a solid white lane along the edge of a 30mph carriageway and make it narrower. Seem to be easier to get funding for too.
Tony1963 said:
Looking at the road on google streetview, it is quite wide, so it’s predictable that many will speed. We have it too, but without the crashes.
I feel for you, I really do.
Thanks.I feel for you, I really do.
Van crashed a few weeks ago. Last year we had a car going off at the same spot and destroying the lamp post. Just before that someone came around the corner too fast, smashed into the back of someone waiting to turn and sent them into a driveway.
Earlier this year a moped rider crashed, then down the road at the junction there was a big pile up. That resulted in a car losing its front right quarter, such was the speed.
Then at the junction at the other end of the road a van ploughed into the back of another vehicle a few months ago, and just around the corner a lorry flipped on its side. It landed across the pavement. Good job nobody was walking along it.
I've spoken to people who have lived around here longer than us. They said the last 18 months have been the worst.
jamei303 said:
The main problem seems to be that a lot of it doesn't feel like 30. For example the curved section approaching Pinchbeck is tree-lined giving the feel of an NSL road. The section leaving Spalding north of the river is quite wide and open, which has a similar effect. The lanes also look wider than 3 meters in places which doesn't help.
Councils like cheap solutions and this usually means paint.
On-road parking bays can be useful. It narrows the carriageway even when the bays are empty. If people are parked along one or both sides, traffic wouldn't get a clear run and pedestrians would be protected from idiots mounting the pavement.
Cycle lanes can also be used for this purpose, especially mandatory ones. Even if there aren't any cyclists they are a way to paint a solid white lane along the edge of a 30mph carriageway and make it narrower. Seem to be easier to get funding for too.
Yep, I agree.Councils like cheap solutions and this usually means paint.
On-road parking bays can be useful. It narrows the carriageway even when the bays are empty. If people are parked along one or both sides, traffic wouldn't get a clear run and pedestrians would be protected from idiots mounting the pavement.
Cycle lanes can also be used for this purpose, especially mandatory ones. Even if there aren't any cyclists they are a way to paint a solid white lane along the edge of a 30mph carriageway and make it narrower. Seem to be easier to get funding for too.
The road used to be 40 mph. It was lowered to 30 mph about five years ago. Since then the amount of stupid overtaking has increased.
I'll look into the cycle lane stuff as I cycle along the road regularly.
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