Are reg plates allowed to be cut/trimmed?
Are reg plates allowed to be cut/trimmed?
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s91

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138 posts

108 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Trying to work out if reg plates have to be a certain size, or if they can legally be cut down to suit, here is the info from the .gov site, it gives information for character size and spacing but nothing about the over all dimensions of the plate itself.

The characters on a number plate need to be a certain height and size:
•characters must be 79mm tall
•characters (except the number 1 or letter I) must be 50mm wide
•the character stroke (the thickness of the black print) must be 14mm
•the space between characters must be 11mm
•the space between the age identifier and the random letters must be 33mm
•the margins at the top, bottom and side of the plate must be 11mm
•vertical space between the age identifier and the random letters must be 19mm

As highlighted in bold the margins must be 11mm, so does this mean that the excess background on the sides can be cut off?

It's an import sized plate so allowing for the 11mm margin and character spacing there's at least 50mm I'd be able to cut off from either side.

The reason for this is the car in question originally had a top mounted intercooler and now has a front mount but the reg plate blocks more than half of the frontal area off, the usual solution is to hack the bumper to bits cutting out the slats and the bit that the reg plate is screwed to and mounting the plate off to one side but I'd rather not go down this route as it ruins the bumper and makes the car look unsymmetrical.

I appreciate that it's not going to make a huge amount of difference but it costs nothing and any extra air flow to the intercooler and radiator is a bonus.

Edited by s91 on Sunday 8th December 21:55

Slow

6,973 posts

166 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Like this?



I assume its legal.

Krikkit

27,938 posts

210 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Slow said:
Like this?



I assume its legal.
Yep, all good there

s91

Original Poster:

138 posts

108 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Yes exactly like that, although it's an import plate so two rows of characters.

CanAm

13,978 posts

301 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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As long as you stick to all the other requirements and dimensions etc, including the margins, it is perfectly legal to reduce the size of the plate.

Editted to add, I think the regulations mention imported cars with strange number plate locations/sizes, but as yours is modified I'd go through the regs with a finetooth comb.

Edited by CanAm on Sunday 8th December 22:02

randlemarcus

13,646 posts

260 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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s91 said:
Yes exactly like that, although it's an import plate so two rows of characters.
If it's a foreign plate, I suspect that DVLA rules don't apply. If you get a jobsworth, it's the German/Italian rules and regs they will be looking at, but that's unlikely as you're only going to be wearing those plates in the UK for six months.

CanAm

13,978 posts

301 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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anonymous said:
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That's why I included "all the other requirements". biggrin

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Or buy a legal import sized plate for it.

s91

Original Poster:

138 posts

108 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Roo said:
Or buy a legal import sized plate for it.
It's already got a legal import sized plate on it, 13" x 7" with the correct character size and spacing, BS number, and name and postcode of supplier.

But across the width there's almost 5 inches in total of useless background.

I just want to know if I can cut away the excess background, if it's not legal to cut it down from the original 13" width then I wont bother.

Pica-Pica

16,582 posts

113 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Krikkit said:
Slow said:
Like this?



I assume its legal.
Yep, all good there
As long as it also has
  • British Standard number (currently BS AU 145d)
  • name, trademark or other way of identifying the manufacturer or supplier
  • name and postcode of the supplying outlet.

samoht

7,225 posts

175 months

Sunday 8th December 2019
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Yes they are - you can have a smaller plate as long as it has the required room for the letters.

As shown, and contrary to most people's assumptions, there is no legal requirement for the size or indeed shape of the overall number plate, only for the numbers themselves. This is how e.g. the Rover 75 was able to have a non-rectangular rear plate.

Centurion07

10,395 posts

276 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Perfectly legal.

As long as the right font is used, the correct size of digits and at least an 11mm border all the way around you'll be fine.

AJB88

15,781 posts

200 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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I've got a stick on vinyl plate on front of the Porsche, legal font, legal spacing etc.

Doesn't have the marks on it at bottom but has been through MOT like that.

red997

1,304 posts

238 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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same here - self adhesive front plate, correct character font / size / spacing, excess boarder cut off, no postcode / supplying dealer marks

Had it on the car for 4 years now - not had any issues

The original that was fitted by the dealer fell off - seriously !
(Its a very curved front - GT3 - holes made in front bumper too large)

Exige77

6,523 posts

220 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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To be legal it must have the BS number and Post code.

I also understand from a rather famous PH thread on the subject that stick on plates don’t actually pass the BS.

You’ve probably been lucky up to now.

If I had a need, I would also be happy to use a stick on number plate.

RSTurboPaul

13,090 posts

287 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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Exige77 said:
To be legal it must have the BS number and Post code.
Is it not the case that plate manufacturers have to include the BS Number and Postcode, but if the plate had been on your car for years wink it is not necessary because the legislation is not retrospective?

Exige77

6,523 posts

220 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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RSTurboPaul said:
Exige77 said:
To be legal it must have the BS number and Post code.
Is it not the case that plate manufacturers have to include the BS Number and Postcode, but if the plate had been on your car for years wink it is not necessary because the legislation is not retrospective?
I think the discussion is about legality.

In a real world situation it’s highly unlikely an otherwise legal plate would give you an issue by not having BS number and postcode.

Roo

11,504 posts

236 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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RSTurboPaul said:
Is it not the case that plate manufacturers have to include the BS Number and Postcode, but if the plate had been on your car for years wink it is not necessary because the legislation is not retrospective?
Only if the plates were manufactured and fitted to the car prior to 1st September 2001.

Mort7

1,489 posts

137 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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The plate on my Caterham is the minimum size it can be within the guidelines. It has the BS number etc, and is perfectly legal.

Proteu5

17 posts

100 months

Monday 9th December 2019
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I know someone who cut out the lettering and numbers in the plate, to let air through to the FMIC. Would this be an option?