Has Scotland gained independence yet?
Discussion
Was filling up at a petrol station in the Midlands earlier today and noticed a sign at the till saying
"Only British bank notes accepted here, ie no Scottish or Irish notes"
Maybe I'm not very attentive to world events, but I wasn't aware that either Scotland or even Ireland had left the UK yet. Have I missed something, or are Scottish and Irish bank notes still legal tender in England? And if you offer one and it's rejected, can you legitimately complain? I got back from Scotland recently with a walletful of unspent Scottish banknotes that I palmed off without problem in a number of English shops. I get that not everyone accepts them, but to not accept them because they're not British????
"Only British bank notes accepted here, ie no Scottish or Irish notes"
Maybe I'm not very attentive to world events, but I wasn't aware that either Scotland or even Ireland had left the UK yet. Have I missed something, or are Scottish and Irish bank notes still legal tender in England? And if you offer one and it's rejected, can you legitimately complain? I got back from Scotland recently with a walletful of unspent Scottish banknotes that I palmed off without problem in a number of English shops. I get that not everyone accepts them, but to not accept them because they're not British????
Bank notes from Scotland and Northern Ireland are legal tender within the UK. Euro as used in Republic of Ireland are not.
Avoiding getting into a political discussion, but in terms of legal tender, said Midlands shop lacks an understanding of the currency of the UK.
As someone from Northern Ireland I've had zero problems spending Northern Ireland bank-notes in Scotland, and likewise no problems with Scottish notes in NI.
I've had a few quizzical looks spending Northern Ireland notes in England, but have assured shop assistants they're Sterling. I've never been refused from using them as payment. However, to avoid any problems most folks I know obtain "English" notes when heading there. No biggie as Scotland and Northern Ireland retailers don't have a problem with "English" notes.
Avoiding getting into a political discussion, but in terms of legal tender, said Midlands shop lacks an understanding of the currency of the UK.
As someone from Northern Ireland I've had zero problems spending Northern Ireland bank-notes in Scotland, and likewise no problems with Scottish notes in NI.
I've had a few quizzical looks spending Northern Ireland notes in England, but have assured shop assistants they're Sterling. I've never been refused from using them as payment. However, to avoid any problems most folks I know obtain "English" notes when heading there. No biggie as Scotland and Northern Ireland retailers don't have a problem with "English" notes.
SlimJim16v said:
They're not legal tender, so every right to refuse them, in England. They are British though.
Legal tender is a much misunderstood phrase, and it has nothing to do with being obliged to accept certain notes or coins in exchange for goods and services. Legal tender is actually a small trolley full of coal that barristers pull along behind them to fuel particularly long cases.
"legal tender" actually only has a narrow (and in most day-to-day use, pointless) meaning.
If you owe a debt, and attempt to pay it with legal tender, you can no longer be sued for non-payment of the debt. That's it. Nothing about whether or not it can be accepted by shops.
In Scottish Law, there is actually no such thing as legal tender, so not only is English money not legal tender in Scotland; Scottish money isn't either!
If you owe a debt, and attempt to pay it with legal tender, you can no longer be sued for non-payment of the debt. That's it. Nothing about whether or not it can be accepted by shops.
In Scottish Law, there is actually no such thing as legal tender, so not only is English money not legal tender in Scotland; Scottish money isn't either!
[quote=buyer&seller]Scottish notes are issued by individual banks and not by The Bank Of England, if the individual bank who issued the notes were to go bust then they are then useless, so not strictly a guarantee of payment, unlike one issued by the BOE.
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But the BoE has the rôle of checking if Scottish and NI banks have the assets to back their issue of notes. Nevertheless Scottish and NI Bank notes are not legal tender in England and Wales. There is also a difference between legal tender and common acceptance.
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But the BoE has the rôle of checking if Scottish and NI banks have the assets to back their issue of notes. Nevertheless Scottish and NI Bank notes are not legal tender in England and Wales. There is also a difference between legal tender and common acceptance.
Vipers said:
Scottish notes are not legal tender in England, nor English notes legal tender in Scotland, I have that confirmed in an email from the Bank of England and will gladly post.
Most odd though the sign.
No need to post, clear enough on Bank of England site.Most odd though the sign.
https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/knowledgebank/what...
I was stood in the Burger King on Gloucester Road in London a few weeks back watching a manager berate a young employee for accepting a Scottish £10 note, telling her it was probably fake and he was going to report it to head office. I quietly slipped my Scottish note back into my wallet and paid with my card.
Edited by parabolica on Sunday 22 December 23:02
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