local park - responsibilities for public safety.
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locally we have a very nice public Council owned/maintained park. Well used by dog owners and these are responsible dog owners, with well socialised dogs. And of course with a lot of folks and well socialised dogs, we have a lot of families with young children.
But now we have the insurance of idiots on cycles. Today, I had to insert my mobility scooter between my dog and a rider on a bike, with mobile on text mode to keep her safe. Later on ,my dog got trapped by a cyclist( one of a group of teenagers with no respect for the safety of pedestrians on the path) and had a cycle fall on her. She's not physically damaged, but mentally traumatised even after hours.
Q is, to the legal gents- who is responsible for the safety of folks using the foot paths in the park.
But now we have the insurance of idiots on cycles. Today, I had to insert my mobility scooter between my dog and a rider on a bike, with mobile on text mode to keep her safe. Later on ,my dog got trapped by a cyclist( one of a group of teenagers with no respect for the safety of pedestrians on the path) and had a cycle fall on her. She's not physically damaged, but mentally traumatised even after hours.
Q is, to the legal gents- who is responsible for the safety of folks using the foot paths in the park.
[quote=Who me ?]locally we have a very nice public Council owned/maintained park. Well used by dog owners and these are responsible dog owners, with well socialised dogs. And of course with a lot of folks and well socialised dogs, we have a lot of families with young children.
But now we have the insurance of idiots on cycles. Today, I had to insert my mobility scooter between my dog and a rider on a bike, with mobile on text mode to keep her safe. Later on ,my dog got trapped by a cyclist( one of a group of teenagers with no respect for the safety of pedestrians on the path) and had a cycle fall on her. She's not physically damaged, but mentally traumatised even after hours.
Q is, to the legal gents- who is responsible for the safety of folks using the foot paths in the park.
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Riding a mobility scooter,with a dog on a lead. Bunch of yoofs pass potentially harming dog and scaring rider I think. Who is to blame?
But now we have the insurance of idiots on cycles. Today, I had to insert my mobility scooter between my dog and a rider on a bike, with mobile on text mode to keep her safe. Later on ,my dog got trapped by a cyclist( one of a group of teenagers with no respect for the safety of pedestrians on the path) and had a cycle fall on her. She's not physically damaged, but mentally traumatised even after hours.
Q is, to the legal gents- who is responsible for the safety of folks using the foot paths in the park.
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Riding a mobility scooter,with a dog on a lead. Bunch of yoofs pass potentially harming dog and scaring rider I think. Who is to blame?
From the other side of the story:
"Me and my mates were cycling through the park, and coming the other way is some old bloke on a mobility scooter, walking a dog, taking up almost all of the path!. As we get closer to him, he suddenly moves his scooter right across on us to try and force us off the path!"
"Me and my mates were cycling through the park, and coming the other way is some old bloke on a mobility scooter, walking a dog, taking up almost all of the path!. As we get closer to him, he suddenly moves his scooter right across on us to try and force us off the path!"
4rephill said:
From the other side of the story:
"Me and my mates were cycling through the park, and coming the other way is some old bloke on a mobility scooter, walking a dog, taking up almost all of the path!. As we get closer to him, he suddenly moves his scooter right across on us to try and force us off the path!"
The drivers of mobility scooters should need a license and insurance. I was taken out by one a few years ago who came from behind, took me out, then shouted at me."Me and my mates were cycling through the park, and coming the other way is some old bloke on a mobility scooter, walking a dog, taking up almost all of the path!. As we get closer to him, he suddenly moves his scooter right across on us to try and force us off the path!"
The local community officers were more bothered about if he was ok. grr
surveyor said:
The drivers of mobility scooters should need a license and insurance. I was taken out by one a few years ago who came from behind, took me out, then shouted at me.
The local community officers were more bothered about if he was ok. grr
4mph - of course its going to hurt but shopping trolleys, prams and cyclists could be coming at you faster.The local community officers were more bothered about if he was ok. grr
Graveworm said:
surveyor said:
The drivers of mobility scooters should need a license and insurance. I was taken out by one a few years ago who came from behind, took me out, then shouted at me.
The local community officers were more bothered about if he was ok. grr
4mph - of course its going to hurt but shopping trolleys, prams and cyclists could be coming at you faster.The local community officers were more bothered about if he was ok. grr
Back to the OP's point, there have been similar issues in a park near to me. Local councillors were contacted and PCSOs kept an eye open and had words in the appropriate ears.
https://www.nottinghampost.com/news/local-news/che...
If it was my relative I’d be wondering why they’re not insured.
If it was my relative I’d be wondering why they’re not insured.
[quote=Who me ?]Today, I had to insert my mobility scooter between my dog and a rider on a bike, with mobile on text mode to keep her safe. Later on ,my dog got trapped by a cyclist( one of a group of teenagers with no respect for the safety of pedestrians on the path) and had a cycle fall on her. She's not physically damaged, but mentally traumatised even after hours.
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Are you riding your scooter on the footpath with your dog running free off the leash or is she running on one of those long extending leads that seem popular?
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Are you riding your scooter on the footpath with your dog running free off the leash or is she running on one of those long extending leads that seem popular?
Edited by paintman on Sunday 2nd February 17:19
Amazing eye sight some folk have ,either that or the non ability to read.
Two items
Yes -realist - as mentioned this part of the park has no cycling signs. But being cyclists ,that means nothing to them .
Two items
eldar said:
Riding a mobility scooter,with a dog on a lead. Bunch of yoofs pass potentially harming dog and scaring rider I think. Who is to blame?
Dod was in fact walking to hell beside Swimbo in first case and not lead. The first rider was coming toward us texting,untill I made him aware of our presence and th dog moved betweem the scooter and a fence meaning that the cyclist ( who was riding without full control) was nearer me. We had to shout to make him aware of our presence. 4rephill said:
From the other side of the story:
"Me and my mates were cycling through the park, and coming the other way is some old bloke on a mobility scooter, walking a dog, taking up almost all of the path!. As we get closer to him, he suddenly moves his scooter right across on us to try and force us off the path!"
Try the truth ,not the yob version( But I forgot -this PH, where the truth is oft missed). We were walking on a part of the footpath in the park which has no cycling signs at regular intervilles. The dog was walking close to my wife and off lead . The group of cyclists came from rear, without any warning of their presence . One attempted to get into the narrow gap between my wife and a wall ,narrowly missing my wife .He failed to stop ( hence verifying that he was riding too fast) and hit the dog with his front wheel before stopping. "Me and my mates were cycling through the park, and coming the other way is some old bloke on a mobility scooter, walking a dog, taking up almost all of the path!. As we get closer to him, he suddenly moves his scooter right across on us to try and force us off the path!"
Yes -realist - as mentioned this part of the park has no cycling signs. But being cyclists ,that means nothing to them .
Edited by Who me ? on Sunday 2nd February 20:24
[quote=Who me ?]Amazing eye sight some folk have ,either that or the non ability to read.
Two items
Yes -realist - as mentioned this part of the park has no cycling signs. But being cyclists ,that means nothing to them .
To be honest your first post doesn't read well. (this one isn't a great deal better)Two items
eldar said:
Riding a mobility scooter,with a dog on a lead. Bunch of yoofs pass potentially harming dog and scaring rider I think. Who is to blame?
Dod was in fact walking to hell beside Swimbo in first case and not lead. The first rider was coming toward us texting,untill I made him aware of our presence and th dog moved betweem the scooter and a fence meaning that the cyclist ( who was riding without full control) was nearer me. We had to shout to make him aware of our presence. 4rephill said:
From the other side of the story:
"Me and my mates were cycling through the park, and coming the other way is some old bloke on a mobility scooter, walking a dog, taking up almost all of the path!. As we get closer to him, he suddenly moves his scooter right across on us to try and force us off the path!"
Try the truth ,not the yob version( But I forgot -this PH, where the truth is oft missed). We were walking on a part of the footpath in the park which has no cycling signs at regular intervilles. The dog was walking close to my wife and off lead . The group of cyclists came from rear, without any warning of their presence . One attempted to get into the narrow gap between my wife and a wall ,narrowly missing my wife .He failed to stop ( hence verifying that he was riding too fast) and hit the dog with his front wheel before stopping. "Me and my mates were cycling through the park, and coming the other way is some old bloke on a mobility scooter, walking a dog, taking up almost all of the path!. As we get closer to him, he suddenly moves his scooter right across on us to try and force us off the path!"
Yes -realist - as mentioned this part of the park has no cycling signs. But being cyclists ,that means nothing to them .
Edited by Who me ? on Sunday 2nd February 20:24
Fortunately for the cyclist ,it was not. My dog is a timid cross JRT/Yorky. After the treatment by a group of yob cyclists, she's an even more terrified little dog, who finds any one walking behind her a threat. Now imagine how you'd feel if this was one of your kids, who felt that walking in a park meant a constant look behind in case a cyclist could come up from behind and terrify her. She's come from a confident little dog to a dog terrified to walk with anything behind her in one day flat, thanks to one group of selfish louts. it's like a learner driver being traumatised by a yob cyclist- the same lot you see jumping red lights and failing to obey traffic laws.
but lets get back to the Question- forget the jovialities- WHO is responsible for public safety in a public space. As I said- this time it was a little dog, who ,fortunately suffered only mental stress. Next time in a public park near you it could be your daughter/grandaughter, mowed down and taken to casuality with serious /life threatening injuries. Which of you would be asking if the dog was called Cerberous.
But then , it could be a rogue cyclist ,who met a large dog head on ,because of reckless cyclist activity and received serous injuries. Not the dog's fault, but as usual ,dog would getthe blame.
but lets get back to the Question- forget the jovialities- WHO is responsible for public safety in a public space. As I said- this time it was a little dog, who ,fortunately suffered only mental stress. Next time in a public park near you it could be your daughter/grandaughter, mowed down and taken to casuality with serious /life threatening injuries. Which of you would be asking if the dog was called Cerberous.
But then , it could be a rogue cyclist ,who met a large dog head on ,because of reckless cyclist activity and received serous injuries. Not the dog's fault, but as usual ,dog would getthe blame.
Edited by Who me ? on Wednesday 5th February 00:45
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