Corona and new speed camera
Discussion
I am not sure that all motorists realise that, leaving aside money that can be generated by assets held by Governments on behalf of the public, Governments do not have any money apart from the money that they generate through various forms of taxation, or other charges made to people who are subject to government in one way or another. There is scope for endless discussion about what is a tax and what isn't, and whether a fine is a tax, and so on, and what rate of tax is appropriate (some say zero, some say more than zero), but, right now, who cares?
Having said that, just as putting up a camera might not seem an important thing to do right now, beefing about speed cameras isn't the most important thing right now either; but in a way this may be a good sign, a sign that life will go on, as ordinary, boring things are still happening, and people are still moaning about ordinary, boring things.
I suspect that, given the confused comms emanating from the Government, no clear message has been given to the contractors tasked with the work, and so they have carried on. Were the workers putting anyone in virus danger while putting up the camera? Perhaps themselves and their families, as depending on their own social and workplace networks they may expose one another to risk.
Having said that, just as putting up a camera might not seem an important thing to do right now, beefing about speed cameras isn't the most important thing right now either; but in a way this may be a good sign, a sign that life will go on, as ordinary, boring things are still happening, and people are still moaning about ordinary, boring things.
I suspect that, given the confused comms emanating from the Government, no clear message has been given to the contractors tasked with the work, and so they have carried on. Were the workers putting anyone in virus danger while putting up the camera? Perhaps themselves and their families, as depending on their own social and workplace networks they may expose one another to risk.
TGTiff said:
With all the measures currently being introduced to ensure only essential journeys / work is carried out.
It was un-suprising to see a pair of new speed cameras being installed on the A596 on the Wigton bypass yesterday afternoon.
How the h3ll can this be essential work?
I've been avoiding the 596 while the railway bridge has temporary lights, I think I'll stick to using the 595 for work. To be fair, that has been discussed for a while following the fatal RTC.It was un-suprising to see a pair of new speed cameras being installed on the A596 on the Wigton bypass yesterday afternoon.
How the h3ll can this be essential work?
martinbiz said:
That really is rubbish, read up before posting
Its actually precisely correct.Bill said:
No such thing as essential work. People are confusing the government's messages. There are key workers and essential/non essential travel. If you're going to work because you can't work from home then that's considered essential travel. It doesn't matter what the work is.
Well said - all this confusion is exasperating!Edited by Mark V GTD on Friday 27th March 18:19
martinbiz said:
Bill said:
Can they work from home? If not (Which I suggest is the case.) they're allowed to go to work.
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That really is rubbish, read up before posting.
Apologies if I misunderstood, please enlighten me as to what you mean
martinbiz said:
I read your post as you saying if someone cannot work from home, they are allowed to go to work, that is an incorrect statement, perhaps there is confusion about the word allowed, by whom?
That is exactly the case. If you can't work from home you go to work, The exception (as it were) is if the work you do is in one of the places that has been closed, shops, churches, massage parlours and the like.What is your view?
Bert
BertBert said:
martinbiz said:
I read your post as you saying if someone cannot work from home, they are allowed to go to work, that is an incorrect statement, perhaps there is confusion about the word allowed, by whom?
That is exactly the case. If you can't work from home you go to work, The exception (as it were) is if the work you do is in one of the places that has been closed, shops, churches, massage parlours and the like.What is your view?
Bert
There isn't some list of people allowed to go to work or not, there's just a list of work places which are closed for distancing reasons - pubs, gyms, cinema, clothes shops, etc.
Everyone else can go to work if they can't work from home, can't they?
You are correct.
Here are the rules.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-gu...
You only have to read section 1.
Here are the rules.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/full-gu...
You only have to read section 1.
This subsection of para 1:
"travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home."
is being used by some firms still working, but they seem to not be adhering to the next line:
"These reasons are exceptions - even when doing these activities, you should be minimising time spent outside of the home and ensuring you are 2 metres apart from anyone outside of your household."
Obviously, NHS staff and some other 'key workers' can't enforce this continually, hence the screens put in at tills by some shops. The MoT station near me that is still open has a temporary barrier put up 2m from the reception desk, and a big sign asking people not to go into the workshop.
The 'outside your household' gets some enraged without good reason. If a family of 5 for example are walking together on the road with their dog, they already live together! It's social spacing from other households that matters.
"travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home."
is being used by some firms still working, but they seem to not be adhering to the next line:
"These reasons are exceptions - even when doing these activities, you should be minimising time spent outside of the home and ensuring you are 2 metres apart from anyone outside of your household."
Obviously, NHS staff and some other 'key workers' can't enforce this continually, hence the screens put in at tills by some shops. The MoT station near me that is still open has a temporary barrier put up 2m from the reception desk, and a big sign asking people not to go into the workshop.
The 'outside your household' gets some enraged without good reason. If a family of 5 for example are walking together on the road with their dog, they already live together! It's social spacing from other households that matters.
Edited by V8fan on Saturday 28th March 12:19
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