Is 20 mph in a 40 limit considerate?
Poll: Is 20 mph in a 40 limit considerate?
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Discussion
We all get the occasional ditherer, pitherer or whatever who can't do more the 20 mph. They cause mayhem, frustration, overtakes and inconvenience. Sure, they may be carrying a tank full of fish in which case I understand the slowness for a short journey.
If there's nothing on board accounting for the slow speed is it considerate to drive at half the speed limit whatever that limit is?
If there's nothing on board accounting for the slow speed is it considerate to drive at half the speed limit whatever that limit is?
Boosted LS1 said:
We all get the occasional ditherer, pitherer or whatever who can't do more the 20 mph. They cause mayhem, frustration, overtakes and inconvenience. Sure, they may be carrying a tank full of fish in which case I understand the slowness for a short journey.
If there's nothing on board accounting for the slow speed is it considerate to drive at half the speed limit whatever that limit is?
It depends what you think the roads are there for and whether you believe in the application of common courtesy and common sense. If I am on my bike doing 20mph I would probably not think that I am dithering and nor would someone on a horse or a road roller. If I am in a car however and for some reason at some point want to do 20mph I would expect to be overtaken and at no point during the overtake would I suddenly speed up or attempt a U turn.If there's nothing on board accounting for the slow speed is it considerate to drive at half the speed limit whatever that limit is?
It very much depends. I got a toot of thanks from a lorry after doing 20 mph in a 40 zone - when I pulled over into a layby to let them past. I was on a bicycle, so going faster wasn't feasible.
Equally, doing 20 mph in a performance car in a 40 zone, where you could easily drive faster could be inconsiderate. But, in most such 40 zones, overtaking said vehicle should be feasible, especially with current traffic. Unless the overtaker is driving something like a lorry...
But, if there's some reason that necessitates driving at that speed (queasy passenger, limp mode transmission, ...). Maybe annoying, but not inconsiderate.
It really depends on the circumstances, and cannot be assigned a fixed figure. Much like dangerous speeds over the speed limit - there are places where 100/70 is safe.
Equally, doing 20 mph in a performance car in a 40 zone, where you could easily drive faster could be inconsiderate. But, in most such 40 zones, overtaking said vehicle should be feasible, especially with current traffic. Unless the overtaker is driving something like a lorry...
But, if there's some reason that necessitates driving at that speed (queasy passenger, limp mode transmission, ...). Maybe annoying, but not inconsiderate.
It really depends on the circumstances, and cannot be assigned a fixed figure. Much like dangerous speeds over the speed limit - there are places where 100/70 is safe.
If you take a driving test any time in the last 20 years, maybe more, then you would have had to have been making reasonable progress in order to pass.
You're literally expected to be within the speed limit but not unreasonably dithering to be able to pass your test. I'm sure this is to filter out drivers who aren't yet confident enough to keep up with traffic and not be a rolling roadblock.
You're literally expected to be within the speed limit but not unreasonably dithering to be able to pass your test. I'm sure this is to filter out drivers who aren't yet confident enough to keep up with traffic and not be a rolling roadblock.
It depends.
I was behind some bell doing 20ish in a 60 (not a 40 but same principle) for several miles on a busy SC A-road. When we eventually got to a place I could overtake it turned out he had a flat tyre and rather than stop and change it, or stop and call a recovery service, or even pull in to let traffic pass, this special little princess thought that him limping home was the most important thing of all. I hope his rim was f
ked and he couldn't find a replacement.
I was behind some bell doing 20ish in a 60 (not a 40 but same principle) for several miles on a busy SC A-road. When we eventually got to a place I could overtake it turned out he had a flat tyre and rather than stop and change it, or stop and call a recovery service, or even pull in to let traffic pass, this special little princess thought that him limping home was the most important thing of all. I hope his rim was f
ked and he couldn't find a replacement.Yes...
Just more evidence of the feckwitts this country has allowed to think they are more important than others around them...
Selfish and inconsiderate, move over and allow others to pass by if you wish to drive at 50% of the speed limit....have a peep in the rear view mirror and see how long the line of queuing vehicles is behind... if there is a bloody long queue question your own driving especially if there is absolutely nothing in front ....
Just more evidence of the feckwitts this country has allowed to think they are more important than others around them...
Selfish and inconsiderate, move over and allow others to pass by if you wish to drive at 50% of the speed limit....have a peep in the rear view mirror and see how long the line of queuing vehicles is behind... if there is a bloody long queue question your own driving especially if there is absolutely nothing in front ....
TwigtheWonderkid said:
If it is inconsiderate, it's not half as inconsiderate as driving right up their rear bumper, flashing your lights, hassling them, or making abusive gestures at them as you pass them.
People don't do that straight away, most will give the person ample time to pull over. It's only when the driver in front starts the holier than thou I'm doing what I want attitude that creates that scenario. Unnecessarily slow driving is inconsiderate, providing someone else is inconvenienced.
Unnecessary is not needed in the circumstances. So, in theory, if a driver is not prevented from and is able to travel faster, and in doing so they are inconveniencing another road user, then we have inconsiderate.
In practice is it a good idea to be pressuring people to drive faster than they are comfortable with?
Unnecessary is not needed in the circumstances. So, in theory, if a driver is not prevented from and is able to travel faster, and in doing so they are inconveniencing another road user, then we have inconsiderate.
In practice is it a good idea to be pressuring people to drive faster than they are comfortable with?
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