Company won’t pay out threats
Company won’t pay out threats
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coldel

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11,101 posts

175 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Quick one. Someone I know has been dismissed by his firm due to ongoing business issues due to C19, dismissed with immediate effect so have quite a few other employees. The firm is going to pay him a months salary claiming that’s in line with his contract. I had a quick look at it and the employer was wrong, it was in fact 6 weeks he was owed. My cousin went back to his employer saying contractually he is owed 6 weeks which the employer admitted to, but says if he has to pay everyone as per the contract he will go bust and they will all get nothing...views?

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

32,007 posts

264 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Looks like they are going bust anyway.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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264 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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I'd wait until the month is safely in the bank and then consider the options.

XCP

17,700 posts

257 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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I am no expert but it sounds like redundancy rather than dismissal. Dismissal implies wrongdoing by the employee.

coldel

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11,101 posts

175 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Ok, to clarify, he employment was terminated due to financial issues driven by C19 - to confirm he was not dismissed due to anything related to performance or behaviour. As mentioned, he and quite a few others have been terminated and paying out everyone as per their contract would bust the company and boss is saying they would all then get nothing.

paintman

7,860 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Not a certain chef by any chance?

coldel

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Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Ha! No. Drives a van.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Length of service?

coldel

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Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Over 7 years. Contract says he gets one months notice payment plus a week for every year over five years served.

Durzel

12,999 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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As has been said already if the difference between 4 and 6 weeks is the company going bust then he should probably be thankful that he is even getting 4 weeks worth.

KungFuPanda

4,639 posts

199 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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What’s your cousin going to do if he doesn’t accept the four weeks? Go to ACAS and then an employment tribunal? How many thousands of cases do you think they’ve got to handle at the moment. You’ll be lucky if the tribunal hearing gets listed before Xmas.

Just accept the four weeks and move on.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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coldel said:
Over 7 years. Contract says he gets one months notice payment plus a week for every year over five years served.
So he's being made redundant.

2 sMoKiN bArReLs

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2 sMoKiN bArReLs said:
I'd wait until the month is safely in the bank and then consider the options.
What date have they said they'd pay the above on?

Bennet

2,133 posts

160 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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coldel said:
paying out everyone as per their contract would bust the company
Ok.
coldel said:
and boss is saying they would all then get nothing.
This makes no sense.



Jasandjules

72,590 posts

258 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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Why not ask for them to be taken back and put on Furlough in the first instance...

ETA - failing that, lodge a claim for the redundancy package owed.

Edited by Jasandjules on Wednesday 8th April 19:28

coldel

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Bennet said:
This makes no sense.
Yes that’s the key point for me. I think the boss is pulling a fast one to save a few quid. I am sure it wouldn’t go bust, but then again is it worth the hassle for 2 weeks worth of wages...

Glosphil

4,880 posts

263 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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If the OP has been made redundant after 7 years with the company than he is entitled to his contractual notice plus 7 weeks wages (which is tax & NI free). If the company cannot pay this than there is government scheme that will.

coldel

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Glosphil said:
If the OP has been made redundant after 7 years with the company than he is entitled to his contractual notice plus 7 weeks wages (which is tax & NI free). If the company cannot pay this than there is government scheme that will.
Ok thanks that’s good news. I think for the sake of moving on this might be the best option.

Glosphil

4,880 posts

263 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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redundancypaymentsonline@insolvency.gov.uk
Phone calls currently not being answered.

Ian Geary

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221 months

Wednesday 8th April 2020
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KungFuPanda said:
. You’ll be lucky if the tribunal hearing gets listed before Xmas.

Xmas 2021