Parking charge notice
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GG89

Original Poster:

3,693 posts

215 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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I recently received a "parking charge notice to hirer " through my door for £60 from a local shopping carpark.

It states it will go up to £100 after 28 days

company is Gemini parking solutions.

Should I pay this fine? Are these enforceable via court action?

Thanks.


Stay in Bed Instead

22,362 posts

186 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Yes, they are potentially enforceable via the courts.

What is your claimed transgression?

GG89

Original Poster:

3,693 posts

215 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Failure to pay for duration of stay. Girlfriends confessed so she can pay the £60

Terminator X

20,579 posts

233 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Contest it. Plenty of info online to get you off. 99% of people can't be arsed hence the "vultures" just carrying on.

TX.

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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Other people think £20 is a more reasonable charge and they pay another company to "make" it go away.

I think those people are just arguing about the amount, happy to pay £20 but not £60.

GG89

Original Poster:

3,693 posts

215 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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The lease is in my name so she can pay it, pure stupidity for the sake of putting 20 pence in a machine.

silverfoxcc

8,405 posts

174 months

Saturday 11th April 2020
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put both sides of the invoice on pepipoo.con redacting all personal info
It could well be that they are not as clued up in conforming the the requirements of POFA 2012

It will only take you 5mins and possibly save her 60,00


anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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Why do you freeman on the land "It is my Divine right to park wherever I like" types encourage the OP to take the piss when his girlfriend is willing to pay?

daytona355

825 posts

228 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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The time it takes to copy it, post it, read the posts, write the letters, wait breathlessly for confirmation or denial...... all that time, for £60? fk it, pay it

texaxile

3,766 posts

179 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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Contest it, it will cost you nothing to do so. There are numerous templates on money saving expert and a very comprehensive FAQ which takes you through the process.

Also might be worth speaking to the shop or the business whom you may have purchased goods from, as they can often cancel a ticket. (This happens all the time in Braintree freeport).

They rely upon "official" letters threatening court action to bully and frighten people into paying. If you ignore then they will send communications , probably pertaining to be from someone like "gladstones solicitors" (have a google) making all kinds of threats and intimidatory rhetoric, however any "option to pay" on the Gladstones letter will oddly always be the "debt collection agency" nuimber.

They'll threaten credit blacklisting etc, but there are details regarding this which are not as simple as them making the threat, it only happens after you have been to court and then not paid any fines imposed by the court. (as I understand it).


Terminator X

20,579 posts

233 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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daytona355 said:
The time it takes to copy it, post it, read the posts, write the letters, wait breathlessly for confirmation or denial...... all that time, for £60? fk it, pay it
Contest it for no other reason than to make them work for their £60. So easy to get off, standard letter online etc.

I took my LA to a parking tribunal and they ended up having to change all their signage as it was wrong!

TX.

KungFuPanda

4,639 posts

199 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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speedyguy said:
Other people think £20 is a more reasonable charge and they pay another company to "make" it go away.

I think those people are just arguing about the amount, happy to pay £20 but not £60.
What???

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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In the battle between the private parking company and the entitled, park where I likey barrack room lawyer motorist, I am reminded of Kissinger's comment about some war between two unpleasant regimes: "A pity they can't both lose".


Mrr T

15,409 posts

294 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
In the battle between the private parking company and the entitled, park where I likey barrack room lawyer motorist, I am reminded of Kissinger's comment about some war between two unpleasant regimes: "A pity they can't both lose".
I have learnt over many years pomposity is a some thing the pompous are proud to demonstrate.

smile

Helicopter123

8,831 posts

185 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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Terminator X said:
daytona355 said:
The time it takes to copy it, post it, read the posts, write the letters, wait breathlessly for confirmation or denial...... all that time, for £60? fk it, pay it
Contest it for no other reason than to make them work for their £60. So easy to get off, standard letter online etc.

I took my LA to a parking tribunal and they ended up having to change all their signage as it was wrong!

TX.
OP's girlfriend has already admitted to breaking the rules - parking without paying.

There is a reason the 'fine' is £60 and not £20 and that's likely to be entitled knob heads with a 'make them work for it' attitude.

Who exactly, do you think ends up paying for the additional work caused?

Mrr T

15,409 posts

294 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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Helicopter123 said:
OP's girlfriend has already admitted to breaking the rules - parking without paying.

There is a reason the 'fine' is £60 and not £20 and that's likely to be entitled knob heads with a 'make them work for it' attitude.

Who exactly, do you think ends up paying for the additional work caused?
The girl friend has admitted to the registered keeper she is in breach of contrant. His is now condidering whether to pay the invoice.

I would recommend he names his GF to the parking conpany as the driver. However, this does not stop some companies making up the law.

Parking is complex and there are dicks. However, there are many car parks where the businesses hate the parking enforcement.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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Terminator X said:
daytona355 said:
The time it takes to copy it, post it, read the posts, write the letters, wait breathlessly for confirmation or denial...... all that time, for £60? fk it, pay it
Contest it for no other reason than to make them work for their £60. So easy to get off, standard letter online etc.

I took my LA to a parking tribunal and they ended up having to change all their signage as it was wrong!

TX.
That's a penalty charge not a parking charge ?

texaxile

3,766 posts

179 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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Helicopter123 said:
OP's girlfriend has already admitted to breaking the rules - parking without paying.

There is a reason the 'fine' is £60 and not £20 and that's likely to be entitled knob heads with a 'make them work for it' attitude.

Who exactly, do you think ends up paying for the additional work caused?
An individual has a lawful and legal right to contest or appeal it, there's nothing wrong in exercising that right.

So "making them work for it" has no bearing upon the amount, unless you have evidence to the contrary.

anonymous-user

83 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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KungFuPanda said:
speedyguy said:
Other people think £20 is a more reasonable charge and they pay another company to "make" it go away.

I think those people are just arguing about the amount, happy to pay £20 but not £60.
What???
Lots of these charges occur in free car parks.
Looking at the local cases people who overstay etc admit to it but just object to paying the reduced £60 charge so would rather pay a company like "appeal my parking charge" £20.

The railways charge a penalty fare if you travel without a ticket or the wrong ticket.

The Ops partner didn't have the right ticket paid for so recieved a parking charge notice.
If it was issued correctly I'm failing to see the issue.
Most people correctly given parking charges tend to dispute the amount of parking charge.

I thought the Beavis case put paid to the 'reasonable charge' theory.

Countdown

49,379 posts

225 months

Sunday 12th April 2020
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Mrr T said:
However, there are many car parks where the businesses hate the parking enforcement.
I'd be surprised if, in most cases, the businesses themselves didn't ask for the enforcement to be put in place.

Unless you've been responsible for managing a car park you might be surprised how many entitled dicks there are out there. They will generally blame everybody else rather than admit they're too lazy and/or too tight to park elsewhere.