PCN, can you get more than one if the car hasn’t moved?
PCN, can you get more than one if the car hasn’t moved?
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Nickbrapp

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5,277 posts

159 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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From a private parking firm, can they issue more than 1 PCN to a vehicle if it hasn’t moved? And is still parked in the same place?

Background, private block of flats where half are still empty, resistant parks in one of the spaces and gets a PCN, car doesn’t move for a week, can it only get one ticket?

xjay1337

15,966 posts

147 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Well it's a single offense so I can't imagine how it would be able to get multiple tickets, no doubt they will try.

GroundZero

2,085 posts

83 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Parking tickets can only be issued in accordance with the advertised rules stated by the company on entering the car park.
So I would guess that if it is not stated there is a time limit for a car to be parked in a single spot then there is no grounds for numerous tickets to compound on top of each other.

Entry time and exit time is usually captured and this would be the basis for one ticket.
If the car park is patrolled manually then tickets can only be issued (I would assume) on the basis of the penalties of breaking the stated rules on the signs.
(Although with residential parking the signs may simply refer you to a parking contract, which would contain the details of penalties for infringement of terms and conditions).

kestral

2,230 posts

236 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Normally one every 24hrs.

Centurion07

10,395 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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kestral said:
Normally one every 24hrs.
Source?


And what do you do for a living?

Dibble

13,276 posts

269 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Centurion07 said:
kestral said:
Normally one every 24hrs.
Source?


And what do you do for a living?
Good luck getting answers to either of those questions!

Centurion07

10,395 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Thought I'd try. biggrin

DanL

6,586 posts

294 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Sure it depends what’s written on the wall? The ticket is a notification they want to give a charge, not the charge itself...

If the notice on the wall says it’s £60 per day (or whatever) then I imagine only one ticket is required, but the charge starts from then until the car moves, assuming they monitor per day and can prove the duration.

Or am I off base?

Centurion07

10,395 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Sounds right to me but then I have no legal qualifications or experience.

Like someone else on here...

Wooda80

1,743 posts

104 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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A car parked in a council operated residents' parking permit zone near my work got a ticket every day for 4 or 5 days.

Dibble

13,276 posts

269 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Centurion07 said:
Sounds right to me but then I have no legal qualifications or experience.

Like someone else on here...
rofl

Nickbrapp

Original Poster:

5,277 posts

159 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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DanL said:
Sure it depends what’s written on the wall? The ticket is a notification they want to give a charge, not the charge itself...

If the notice on the wall says it’s £60 per day (or whatever) then I imagine only one ticket is required, but the charge starts from then until the car moves, assuming they monitor per day and can prove the duration.

Or am I off base?
I will check, there’s no ANPR camera that dictate a entry or leaving time, the signs just say £100 charge if parked without permit, outside of a bay etc,

Pretty sure there’s no time frame on it,

BertBert

21,260 posts

240 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Nickbrapp said:
I will check, there’s no ANPR camera that dictate a entry or leaving time, the signs just say £100 charge if parked without permit, outside of a bay etc,

Pretty sure there’s no time frame on it,
I think that every time they come round and look they'll issue another PCN. Probably not more than one per day. That's the experience of one of my family anyway.
Bert

cossy400

3,463 posts

213 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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Dibble said:
Centurion07 said:
Sounds right to me but then I have no legal qualifications or experience.

Like someone else on here...
rofl
You ve scared them off now.

speedchick

5,288 posts

251 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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kestral said:
Normally one every 24hrs.
I do it for living, I do the local council car parks, but used to do on street parking, its one every 24 hours, upto a maximum of 3 where I am, after that, if its a car park they start trying to trace the owner before removal of said car, not sure these days what they do on street.

Edited to add, from what I remember on street, if it was a limited waiting bay, then it didn't count as a continuous contravention as the restriction was not 24/7 (like dropped kerbs and double yellow lines), for continuous contraventions people are sometimes able to get numbers 2 and 3 cancelled.

With the car parks i do, its chargable between 8am and 9pm, so come 8.11 the next morning, its a new contravention (be it, out of markings, disabled bay with no badge, no P&D or expired P&D)


Edited by speedchick on Thursday 21st May 16:42

kestral

2,230 posts

236 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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speedchick said:
its one every 24 hours
I said that.laugh

Centurion07

10,395 posts

276 months

Thursday 21st May 2020
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kestral said:
speedchick said:
its one every 24 hours
I said that.laugh
Still waiting on YOUR source for that...

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Centurion07 said:
kestral said:
speedchick said:
its one every 24 hours
I said that.laugh
Still waiting on YOUR source for that...
And as Speedchick said that was on public Highways/Parking not private land so completely irrelevant ?

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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OK, I admit it. I am kestral. BV72 is my parody account.

I had a good run, chinny reckon?

Dibble

13,276 posts

269 months

Friday 22nd May 2020
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Breadvan72 said:
OK, I admit it. I am kestral. BV72 is my parody account.

I had a good run, chinny reckon?
Well you fooled me.

No, wait...