NIP for a car I do not own
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Just received a NIP from the Met alleging me going through a 20mph camera at a speed above 25mph.
Anyway, the car mentioned is not owned by me and never has been, so no idea where they got my details from.
Looks like the reverse has 3 options -
Confess your sins, grass up someone else, or declare when you sold the car.
Seeing as none of these are true, it would seem incorrect to actualy complete these (and therefore be lying), so I just wrote on it "not my car" and sent it back to them.
Just noticed the NIP is dated 3rd June, but the offence was 3rd Feb. Doesnt the NIP need to be sent within 14 days?
Any other advice?
Anyway, the car mentioned is not owned by me and never has been, so no idea where they got my details from.
Looks like the reverse has 3 options -
Confess your sins, grass up someone else, or declare when you sold the car.
Seeing as none of these are true, it would seem incorrect to actualy complete these (and therefore be lying), so I just wrote on it "not my car" and sent it back to them.
Just noticed the NIP is dated 3rd June, but the offence was 3rd Feb. Doesnt the NIP need to be sent within 14 days?
Any other advice?
808 Estate said:
Just received a NIP from the Met alleging me going through a 20mph camera at a speed above 25mph.
Anyway, the car mentioned is not owned by me and never has been, so no idea where they got my details from.
Looks like the reverse has 3 options -
Confess your sins, grass up someone else, or declare when you sold the car.
Seeing as none of these are true, it would seem incorrect to actualy complete these (and therefore be lying), so I just wrote on it "not my car" and sent it back to them.
Just noticed the NIP is dated 3rd June, but the offence was 3rd Feb. Doesnt the NIP need to be sent within 14 days?
Any other advice?
Probably somebody has named you as the driver.Anyway, the car mentioned is not owned by me and never has been, so no idea where they got my details from.
Looks like the reverse has 3 options -
Confess your sins, grass up someone else, or declare when you sold the car.
Seeing as none of these are true, it would seem incorrect to actualy complete these (and therefore be lying), so I just wrote on it "not my car" and sent it back to them.
Just noticed the NIP is dated 3rd June, but the offence was 3rd Feb. Doesnt the NIP need to be sent within 14 days?
Any other advice?
Only the first NIP has to be 14 days, any subsequent notifications obviously don't have to be.
vonhosen said:
Probably somebody has named you as the driver.
This is the likely scenario, and your answer should have reflected this with a denial of being the driver. The fact that it was not your car is completely irrelevant - I've never had a speeding ticket in my own car, always someone else's, and the paperwork has always arrived many weeks later.
Well someone has presumably named you as the driver and I doubt they have plucked your name and address randomly from thin air.
Do you regularly drive cars that you don't own? Hire cars, company cars etc.
I'm going to guess that this thread will end up like most others on here like it where the OP drip feeds information and also won't actually give you all of the facts, often heading towards the fact that the OP is often guilty of the offence all along...
Do you regularly drive cars that you don't own? Hire cars, company cars etc.
I'm going to guess that this thread will end up like most others on here like it where the OP drip feeds information and also won't actually give you all of the facts, often heading towards the fact that the OP is often guilty of the offence all along...
Edited by Matt_E_Mulsion on Saturday 6th June 10:11
Yes I do regularly drive hire cars.
At the time of the alleged offence I was also driving a hire car.
At the time of the alleged offence, I was driving up the M6 towards the Lake District (some distance from Hackney where the offence took place)
Yes I can prove I was no where near London (credit card transactions & hotel booking)
Cant contact Police as the NIP didnt include a contact phone number or email address. Just a post address.
At the time of the alleged offence I was also driving a hire car.
At the time of the alleged offence, I was driving up the M6 towards the Lake District (some distance from Hackney where the offence took place)
Yes I can prove I was no where near London (credit card transactions & hotel booking)
Cant contact Police as the NIP didnt include a contact phone number or email address. Just a post address.
I was sent a NIP for speeding in a small town near Doncaster a couple of years ago. Never been there, or within 100 miles for a year of so.
Wrote back with a very clear picture of my car saying there must be a case of mistaken identity. Received a reply back saying - looks like the same car!
So wrote back with some CCTV with me at work on same day and time of offence (fortunately I had saved it as soon as the NIP came in).
Got another letter saying it didn’t make any difference as they would need to see a evidence of the car at the time of the offence in a different location to discount it.
Anyway this time the woman I was writing to had inadvertently included her direct phone number at the bottom of the letter.
I rang and explained it was 100% not me, I was the only driver of that vehicle since new and I had sent her CCTV of me at a location 100 miles away at the time of the offence.
Without a breath, she just said ‘I’ll just cancel it then’
So in my case justice was served, but OP you just have to persevere, and ultimately speak to the right person.
Never did find out the reason why, or how a car that looked the same as mine (same car and reg plates etc) was pictured. Never happened again, but is was a lease car that went back a couple of months later.
Wrote back with a very clear picture of my car saying there must be a case of mistaken identity. Received a reply back saying - looks like the same car!
So wrote back with some CCTV with me at work on same day and time of offence (fortunately I had saved it as soon as the NIP came in).
Got another letter saying it didn’t make any difference as they would need to see a evidence of the car at the time of the offence in a different location to discount it.
Anyway this time the woman I was writing to had inadvertently included her direct phone number at the bottom of the letter.
I rang and explained it was 100% not me, I was the only driver of that vehicle since new and I had sent her CCTV of me at a location 100 miles away at the time of the offence.
Without a breath, she just said ‘I’ll just cancel it then’
So in my case justice was served, but OP you just have to persevere, and ultimately speak to the right person.
Never did find out the reason why, or how a car that looked the same as mine (same car and reg plates etc) was pictured. Never happened again, but is was a lease car that went back a couple of months later.
agtlaw said:
BertBert said:
I think the answer should have been, I wasn't driving and I don't know who was as it's not my car and I have no knowledge of it.
If true then agreed. OP should send an email to the police.
If it were myself involved, I think I would have supplied a bit more information than the motoring equivalent of: "Weren't me Guv'!" - Such as the registrations numbers of all the vehicles I own, and where I was on the date/time in question.
Tony1963 said:
@ham_and_jam
It’s always worth having something ‘unique’ in your car’s windscreen and rear window. Maybe a small sticker, for example. That is very unlikely to be cloned, so can save a lot of aggro when you try to prove it’s not your car. And that’s advice from traffic police.
Did it not occur to the policeman that I could have added the sticker after the picture had been taken? Was he the type who likes to add '.... of x years standing' after he tells you his occupation? Or am I due a woosh?It’s always worth having something ‘unique’ in your car’s windscreen and rear window. Maybe a small sticker, for example. That is very unlikely to be cloned, so can save a lot of aggro when you try to prove it’s not your car. And that’s advice from traffic police.
Tony1963 said:
@ham_and_jam
It’s always worth having something ‘unique’ in your car’s windscreen and rear window. Maybe a small sticker, for example. That is very unlikely to be cloned, so can save a lot of aggro when you try to prove it’s not your car. And that’s advice from traffic police.
How often have you had to do this?!It’s always worth having something ‘unique’ in your car’s windscreen and rear window. Maybe a small sticker, for example. That is very unlikely to be cloned, so can save a lot of aggro when you try to prove it’s not your car. And that’s advice from traffic police.
Seems quite a unique and not infallible solution to a once in a lifetime event for what, one in a thousand people? Or maybe I’m totally out of touch with numbers of inaccurate prosecutions.
Dg504 said:
Tony1963 said:
@ham_and_jam
It’s always worth having something ‘unique’ in your car’s windscreen and rear window. Maybe a small sticker, for example. That is very unlikely to be cloned, so can save a lot of aggro when you try to prove it’s not your car. And that’s advice from traffic police.
How often have you had to do this?!It’s always worth having something ‘unique’ in your car’s windscreen and rear window. Maybe a small sticker, for example. That is very unlikely to be cloned, so can save a lot of aggro when you try to prove it’s not your car. And that’s advice from traffic police.
Seems quite a unique and not infallible solution to a once in a lifetime event for what, one in a thousand people? Or maybe I’m totally out of touch with numbers of inaccurate prosecutions.
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