SORN'd but still on the road?
SORN'd but still on the road?
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Dal3D

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1,269 posts

180 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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A car near me is SORN'd and uninsured which is fair enough, but it's still on the road and balancing precariously on axle stands. If it were to fall of the stands and hit my car as I drive by it, how would that stand with a claim?

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Olivergt

2,254 posts

110 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Why not just drive a little further away from it?

But in answer to your question, you would claim through MIB:

https://www.mib.org.uk/making-a-claim/claiming-aga...

Cat

3,134 posts

298 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Olivergt said:
Why not just drive a little further away from it?

But in answer to your question, you would claim through MIB:

https://www.mib.org.uk/making-a-claim/claiming-aga...
If the OP's vehicle is insured fully comp then they would need to claim of their own insurance not the MIB.

Cat

Boosted LS1

21,200 posts

289 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Yes, now you've done the research drive further away from it and you'll be safe. Hopefully a gust of wind won't send it crashing into you.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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If it bothers you report it, if it doesn't don't

Alucidnation

16,810 posts

199 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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I am sure there must be many claims of cars randomly jumping out at passing motorists.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 7th July 2020
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Or be proactive and kick/push it off the axle stands so it cannot fall into your car as you drive past 😀

P.S. not a serious suggestion.

A1VDY

3,575 posts

156 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Dal3D said:
A car near me is SORN'd and uninsured which is fair enough, but it's still on the road :
If it's been there a while, has it just been dumped?
Abandoned cars with parts missing are a complete eyesore. Phone your local council and ask them to remove it..

Drawweight

3,596 posts

145 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Surely if it’s on axle stands it’s not ‘on’ the road biggrin

P.S I’ve no idea of the legal position but I’m sure someone clarify it.



smileymikey

1,446 posts

255 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Drawweight said:
Surely if it’s on axle stands it’s not ‘on’ the road biggrin

P.S I’ve no idea of the legal position but I’m sure someone clarify it.
I'm sure I remember it being the driven wheels need to be two inches clear of the tarmac. This is based on my dads copy of the AA book of the law 40 years ago. Don't quote me.

Dal3D

Original Poster:

1,269 posts

180 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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smileymikey said:
I'm sure I remember it being the driven wheels need to be two inches clear of the tarmac. This is based on my dads copy of the AA book of the law 40 years ago. Don't quote me.
It's the two rear wheels that are missing and it's a front wheel drive car. Hopefully it's just getting some new tyres or something. It's not had an MOT since November so hopefully finally getting it roadworthy again.

Oops -- quoted you. Sorry laugh

SS2.

14,712 posts

267 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Drawweight said:
Surely if it’s on axle stands it’s not ‘on’ the road biggrin
It is, and it remains being 'used' even when parked up and unattended..

Far Cough

2,481 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Quick report on the local council "Fix My Street” portal and it will start the wheels in motion.

Www.fixmystreet.com

sospan

2,755 posts

251 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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How long has it been there? A likely clue as to either stored there or doing a short job on it.
Is there proper off road storage available and has it ever been there rather than the road.
Short term having a job done....live with it until it becomes long term.
Been there all along....contact council.
Your choice in the end.

Ransoman

884 posts

119 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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How do you know it is uninsured?

My Alfa is sitting on my drive on Axle stands. It is Sorned and long out of MOT but it is still fully insured. It has no rear suspension on it and is covered in fresh paint in various places and other parts in various state of dismantled or cleaned up at the moment and I would be pissed if someone reported it as abandoned. don't be such a busybody.

Far Cough

2,481 posts

197 months

Wednesday 8th July 2020
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Ransoman said:
How do you know it is uninsured?

My Alfa is sitting on my drive on Axle stands. It is Sorned and long out of MOT but it is still fully insured. It has no rear suspension on it and is covered in fresh paint in various places and other parts in various state of dismantled or cleaned up at the moment and I would be pissed if someone reported it as abandoned. don't be such a busybody.
Askmid will tell you if it's insured or not and your car is on your property. This one is just abandoned at the side of the road becoming an eyesore. You might have a different view if it was dumped outside your house.

Dal3D

Original Poster:

1,269 posts

180 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Ransoman said:
How do you know it is uninsured?

My Alfa is sitting on my drive on Axle stands. It is Sorned and long out of MOT but it is still fully insured. It has no rear suspension on it and is covered in fresh paint in various places and other parts in various state of dismantled or cleaned up at the moment and I would be pissed if someone reported it as abandoned. don't be such a busybody.
If it's on your drive then all is well. This one isn't on private property, it's on the highway.

https://ownvehicle.askmid.com/

Good quick check for "status"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com....

Maybe you'd be a "busybody" if you thought it might fall onto your car with a stiff breeze? I play and pay by the rules of the road so why shouldn't everyone else? And somebody please think of the children!

spin

Smurfsarepeopletoo

1,013 posts

86 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Dal3D said:
If it's on your drive then all is well. This one isn't on private property, it's on the highway.

https://ownvehicle.askmid.com/

Good quick check for "status"
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com....

Maybe you'd be a "busybody" if you thought it might fall onto your car with a stiff breeze? I play and pay by the rules of the road so why shouldn't everyone else? And somebody please think of the children!

spin
If its on a proper axle stand, then it is unlikely to fall off with a stiff breese, and you would have to be driving extremely close for it to hit your car if it did.

If your that concerned, report it, or even better, go and have a word with the owner and ask if its going to be there for long.



Dal3D

Original Poster:

1,269 posts

180 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Nah, much more fun to chew the fat on here laugh

4rephill

5,167 posts

207 months

Thursday 9th July 2020
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Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
If its on a proper axle stand, then it is unlikely to fall off with a stiff breese.......
I would add a caveat of:

If it's on proper axle stands, that are suitable for the weight of the vehicle, and are located correctly, then it is highly unlikely to fall off with a stiff breeze. or vehicles passing by it.

With correctly located, suitable axle stands, you can have a car raised to a level which, to the initiated, seems precarious, and at risk of falling, when in reality, you could shove it as hard as you like and the car won't move.

Smurfsarepeopletoo said:
...... and you would have to be driving extremely close for it to hit your car if it did.....
Not necessarily - A car sliding off poorly located/unsuitable axle stands could easily end up going up to, and over the centre-line of the road (especially if only one end of the car is up on axle stands), so if you leave @ half a car width as you pass, it's quite possible to be hit by a car coming off axle stands.