Penalty Charge Notice - questionable photographic evidence
Penalty Charge Notice - questionable photographic evidence
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impreza280

Original Poster:

237 posts

178 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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I have received a Penalty Charge Notice for driving in a bus lane, based on photographic evidence. Two colour pictures show a red car 'similar' to mine, while a third (black and white) picture shows a car with the same registration mark as mine but clearly does not appear to be the same colour. Is there enough of a technicality to challenge this with a realistic chance of getting the PCN cancelled?


Tony1963

5,808 posts

191 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Was it you?

h0b0

9,067 posts

225 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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The defense is “the black and white photo doesn’t show colour”?

Sounds water right to me.

I’m sorry, I came back to correct a spelling mistake and ask the mods to change the thread title “things that are wrong with the world”.

OP, taking responsibility for your actions is one of those life lessons. Grow up and hold your hands up. Otherwise, contesting it is a waste of resources. Everyone involved with the process has to be paid. That’s why 20% of all people in the UK, and growing, are in the public sector being paid for by your taxes. If everyone took responsibility for their actions, we wouldn’t need half of them.

Edited by h0b0 on Sunday 12th July 23:15

Driver101

14,451 posts

150 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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impreza280 said:
I have received a Penalty Charge Notice for driving in a bus lane, based on photographic evidence. Two colour pictures show a red car 'similar' to mine, while a third (black and white) picture shows a car with the same registration mark as mine but clearly does not appear to be the same colour. Is there enough of a technicality to challenge this with a realistic chance of getting the PCN cancelled?

I can guess how this thread will go.

agtlaw

7,402 posts

235 months

Sunday 12th July 2020
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Helicopter123

8,831 posts

185 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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impreza280 said:
I have received a Penalty Charge Notice for driving in a bus lane, based on photographic evidence. Two colour pictures show a red car 'similar' to mine, while a third (black and white) picture shows a car with the same registration mark as mine but clearly does not appear to be the same colour. Is there enough of a technicality to challenge this with a realistic chance of getting the PCN cancelled?

Was it you? If so, you will need to pay up I’m afraid. If not, then contest but I can’t really see what your case is going to be based on?

impreza280

Original Poster:

237 posts

178 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I've paid it just now - worth a discussion (especially as I had 2 parking fines overturned in the last 18 months based on technicalities)

Jamescrs

6,381 posts

94 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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So two parking fines issued and now a bus lane fine.

May I suggest you reconsider the way you conduct yourself when in your car and it would probably save a load of hassle.

Mr Pointy

13,363 posts

188 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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impreza280 said:
I have received a Penalty Charge Notice for driving in a bus lane, based on photographic evidence. Two colour pictures show a red car 'similar' to mine, while a third (black and white) picture shows a car with the same registration mark as mine but clearly does not appear to be the same colour. Is there enough of a technicality to challenge this with a realistic chance of getting the PCN cancelled?
How do you know it's not an infra-red camera used for better pictures taken in the dark? The "colour" of your car would apear very different to that from a "normal" camera.

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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i think we can all see that the second pic is a photo of a white or very pale colour car, not a red car and not some super xray thermal vision camera.

and to me they dont even look like the same model of car, red one looks like a twingo or older style kia picanto ? or something , headlights totally different shape to the car in the second pic.

do they say they think both vehicles are your car?

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 13th July 13:06

Mandalore

5,457 posts

142 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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impreza280 said:
I've paid it just now - worth a discussion (especially as I had 2 parking fines overturned in the last 18 months based on technicalities)
Moving on up the ladder, one step at a time. wink


98elise

32,575 posts

190 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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JimSuperSix said:
i think we can all see that the second pic is a photo of a white or very pale colour car, not a red car and not some super xray thermal vision camera.

and to me they dont even look like the same model of car, red one looks like a twingo or older style kia picanto ? or something , headlights totally different shape to the car in the second pic.

do they say they think both vehicles are your car?

Edited by JimSuperSix on Monday 13th July 13:06
In that case the OP needs to report that white car is driving around with his registration plates.

PorkInsider

6,585 posts

170 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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98elise said:
In that case the OP needs to report that white car is driving around with his registration plates.
This.

Surely the 'white' car is displaying OP's plate, otherwise he'd have mentioned that?

semisane

900 posts

111 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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look like different cars to me

need more info

dibblecorse

7,599 posts

221 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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semisane said:
look like different cars to me

need more info
No it doesn't, the OP has paid up, he knew it was him, and he knows the cars are the same as if he thought there was a rogue car using his reg plat he would have been all over it.

semisane

900 posts

111 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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dibblecorse said:
semisane said:
look like different cars to me

need more info
No it doesn't, the OP has paid up, he knew it was him, and he knows the cars are the same as if he thought there was a rogue car using his reg plat he would have been all over it.
look like different cars to me

Cold

16,689 posts

119 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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First picture looks like a Hyundai Atoz.

QBee

22,468 posts

173 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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Cold said:
First picture looks like a Hyundai Atoz.
OP is too embarrassed to admit on PH to driving one of them.....whistle

BertBert

21,258 posts

240 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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semisane said:
look like different cars to me
The two cars we can see in the pic are definitely different cars.

mmm-five

12,347 posts

313 months

Monday 13th July 2020
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I'm saying Daewoo Matiz:


...but not ruling out some version of the Renault Twingo: