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[quote=Western Mail]Motorist jailed for lying under oath
Jun 22 2005
Western Mail
A MOTORIST has spent his first night in prison after trying to lie his way out of a speeding conviction.
Mark Ritchie, 30, insisted under oath that his speeding warning arrived late in the post.
Yesterday Cardiff Crown Court heard that was a lie and Ritchie, an entertainer who specialises in Elvis Presley songs, was sentenced to three months after admitting perjury.
The judge said the offence was so serious Ritchie needed to hear the 'clang of the prison gates'.
A speed camera in the back of a police van clocked Ritchie's car doing 41mph in a 30mph zone, in September 2003.
Four days later he was thrown out of Cardiff Central Police Station when he complained about the speeding notice, the court heard.
But last March, Ritchie, of Rhydyfelin, near Pontypridd, told a court the notice did not arrive in the post for a month and a half.
He was not convicted for speeding at the time, but was found guilty of failing to disclose who was driving his car.[/quote]
A fool and his honesty are easily seperated it seems, but to only be done for s172. I would have thought contempt would have been more appropriate.
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Jun 22 2005
Western Mail
A MOTORIST has spent his first night in prison after trying to lie his way out of a speeding conviction.
Mark Ritchie, 30, insisted under oath that his speeding warning arrived late in the post.
Yesterday Cardiff Crown Court heard that was a lie and Ritchie, an entertainer who specialises in Elvis Presley songs, was sentenced to three months after admitting perjury.
The judge said the offence was so serious Ritchie needed to hear the 'clang of the prison gates'.
A speed camera in the back of a police van clocked Ritchie's car doing 41mph in a 30mph zone, in September 2003.
Four days later he was thrown out of Cardiff Central Police Station when he complained about the speeding notice, the court heard.
But last March, Ritchie, of Rhydyfelin, near Pontypridd, told a court the notice did not arrive in the post for a month and a half.
He was not convicted for speeding at the time, but was found guilty of failing to disclose who was driving his car.[/quote]
A fool and his honesty are easily seperated it seems, but to only be done for s172. I would have thought contempt would have been more appropriate.
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puggit said:
Attempting to deprive the 'safety' partnership is a worse crime then burglary - this is the world we live in...
NO. That is part of the game. Lying on oath is the crime. If avoiding paying a speeding fine requires you to swear an oath in court and lie, then the court is misled and justice cannot follow its true course.
the judge said:
"Everyday, witnesses and defendants are required to take the oath to say that they will tell the truth. If they then take the oath and lie, as you did, they are then committing a serious crime.
"The public must be reassured about what will happen if sworn witnesses do as you did.
This is a warning to all who try to pull the wool over the eyes of a court!
Try every trick in the pepipoo book to get away with it. Hire a very expensive legal expert but NEVER lie in the witness box!
Jeffrey Archer (the author) did over something pretty stupid and trivial and look at the mess that got him into!
Llais y Sais said:
judge said .....strikes to the heart of our system of justice.
These pompous asses in courts take themselves far too seriously.... don't they. Do they believe that all the chavs who hold the bible in the whichever had it is really tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. And the same for the CPS witnesses ?
and Scumera partnerships etc etc....
I say .....grow up.
If you are going to lie make sure you can't get tripped up.
The Judge should have sentenced this guy to an afternoon in the stocks
wedge girl said:
Intersting paradox:
You plead not guity to a charge in court under oath, you get found guilty have you lied under oath?
Alan
Do you enter a 'not guilty plea' under oath?
No, but if you give evidence "I didn't do it" etc and you get found guilty then you have lied under oath so everybody found guilty of a crime should be sent to prison for perjury. Sorry I'm in a pedantic mood today (must be the weather or my age or something
parrot of doom said:
Judges don't like being lied to. Friend of mine got 6 months for lying when he was caught racing on the roads.
The actual offence would have been a couple of hundred quid fine and points :/
I think that you'll find that racing on the public highway is a tad more serious than that.
Unlikely to result in 6 months inside, of course, unless there were serious consequences.
>> Edited by jeffreyarcher on Thursday 23 June 00:32
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